Again response protocol not followed!!!!

[Darren]

12:44:23   03-09-10   SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 11 , RESPOND FLOODING, 4 ALEXANDER ST, WALLEROO , BUILDING FLOODED, CHRIS WALL, 0407973887, P2, PTB, BUTE UNAVAILABLE - SES Pt Broughton Response


When will they ever learn.....copper triangle has no SES within a bazillion kms hence the agreement that the local fire service attends with a note to the SES state duty officer even we know that and we are supposed to be the dumbest people ever....how many times do we bang on about doing this right. Those in glass houses are quick to throw stones! God help us if we throw one back!

[Bagyassfirey]

03-09-10 14:41:26 Crew availability required from all members. Contact duty officer on 82777411. Currently 10 outstanding jobs. - SES RO

Ask for some help maybe......

[boredmatrix]

and even then it's still lights and sirens attendance at cars into houses that firies have been sitting at for 45 mins and ambo's have long gone!!

[chook]

We had the first Warning order for this event on the 23rd August - no panic find out what crews, gear, threats there are & just wait! And with regular updates as well! So it shouldn't be a surprise for anyone

[Bagyassfirey]

03-09-10 15:47:18 MFS: *CFSRES INC152 03/09/10 15:46,RESPOND Flooding/Salvage,WALLAROO MFS,WALLAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG194,CNR OF OWEN TCE AND WYLDMAN,WAL671 KAD661 - MFS Wallaroo Response

someone must have been listening!

[safireservice]

So what does this mean?

MFS: *CFSRES INC149 03/09/10 15:36,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,122 GOODMAN RD,ELIZABETH SOUTH MAP 61 K 6 TG182,WATER ENTERING THROUGH CEILING IN LOUNGE,, CEILING STARTING TO CRACK.,ELZ331 ELZ339

Fat fingers in comms?

[Alan (Big Al)]

1909032 16:26:11 03-09-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC172 03/09/10 16:25,RESPOND Flooding/Salvage,ASHBOURNE CFS,ASHBOURNE MAP 0 0 0 TG142,RESPOND TO ASHBOURNE STATION. CONTACT ST,RATH STATION FOR FURTHER DETAILS,CLAY00
CFS Clayton Response

Just make sure you keep it in your group before you call for closer resources 

Honestly CFS can be just as bad at this sometimes as well as SES 

[bajdas]

picky....picky...

[Alan (Big Al)]

No not really

[Darren]

Looks like they are having the night off to, clearly a non essential service....its ok the fire service will pick up the slack, which more than likely wouldn't be there if things were triaged!!

[piriejono]

For info that job at the copper triangle paged to Pt Broughton was passed onto MFS via SCC after the Nth SES RDO rang SCC, Port Broughton then got a stop call other then transporting a bundle of sandbags down to Kadina.

I am aware of this as i was in the North SES HQ this afternoon.

[Robert-Robert34]

Seems like information gets cross wired alot these days 

[Darren]

For info that job at the copper triangle paged to Pt Broughton was passed onto MFS via SCC after the Nth SES RDO rang SCC, Port Broughton then got a stop call other then transporting a bundle of sandbags down to Kadina.

I am aware of this as i was in the North SES HQ this afternoon.

Still happening, and I know its not your fault....

[Zippy]

SACAD....where art thou...now?

[Bagyassfirey]

SACAD....where art thou...now?

apparantly trial from october over the Summer and live May 11

[Zippy]

What will SES being doing with the SCC when it comes to SACAD???  As i personally think, sacad can only be successful if every, every, ESO moves over to it.

[Pipster]

SACAD....where art thou...now?

apparantly trial from october over the Summer and live May 11

Yeah, but which year??   

Pip

[6739264]

SACAD....where art thou...now?

apparantly trial from october over the Summer and live May 11

Sure, just without Fire Service integration...

Atleast another 12-18 months for the Fire Service to go live.

[Alex]

Is it really necessary to even post this thread though Darren? It is common knowledge that as soon as the SES SCC opens, all correct call taking procedure, triaging of jobs and even SES SOPs go flying out the door...

I mean honestly, it seems to me that they don't even know there own response priorities...? How many P1s have gone out in CFS and MFS response areas as SES only?

[misterteddy]

saw Mr Arnold today with a set of chaps on.....one would have thought there was better employment for someone of his standing in an Ops room somewhere

[bajdas]

What will SES being doing with the SCC when it comes to SACAD??? ....

Large modification already announced...

[Darren]

Something needs to be done about asking for help, not leaving it to late in the night when not only are SES tired, the CFS/MFS are to. Like today, clearly obvious it was busy yesterday and last night, get a strike team happening to avoid massive back logs that happen.

The triaging is poorly done now, save a lot of hassle that way.

[rescue5271]

Every time there is  large storm damage or flash flooding we keep going around and around and around and we all post the same thing...Will SACAD really help things along??? Will one call centre be able to cope with all work load???


I could sit hear and point out wrong protocols for the jobs we have had but what is the point when all we hear is SACAD will fix it and yes we have heard its coming but in what year.....At the end of the day if you need more appliances then ask for them its not that hard to contact the regional duty officer....

[chook]

Correct Bill & Darren, I want to know what happen to introducing something like Request for Assistance? We used them in NSW (I was part of the SA team then) during the Newcastle storm event (over 19000 calls split between Sydney & Newcastle) & everyone I spoke to thought they were a great idea. Obviously since then, nothing! We use them here & now its all online, simple system that not only allocates tasks, triages & if used properly gives a unit, region & state HQ a very clear idea what is committed (right down to the name of the team leader). Its a good system that works! I'm just not sure why SA didn't adopt it. And yep I'm not sure why a senior officer is in chaps either . Anyway I could go on for hours about things but I won't! Hopefully one day someone will look over the border & see how other services run an event (we have learn't a lot since 2007 ) by the way we don't use pagers - they are for Rescue squads only! bye 4 now

[bajdas]

I typed a large 'pissed off' reply to the lot of you, esp paid staff that we support.....but thought you fellow volunteers are NOT WORTH IT......

Get all the facts (which you cant because you were NOT there) before making others angry.