Hermitage 34

[BundyBear]

Dont go driving in the wet!

[Bagyassfirey]

wow

[Alan (Big Al)]

damn they did do a good job of it didnt they.... oops

[Pipster]

Presumably this was from a few months ago...?

Pip

[JJD]

Yes

[bajdas]

Just curious. Were they setting up an anchor on the vehicle chassis while the photos were being taken ?

I did not think the front step would be that strong, to be an anchor point for vehicle stability !

Please correct me if I am wrong and the existing rope goes underneath the step to somewhere else.

[Mike]

Yikes....

So was there much damage in the end (other than pride!)?

[SimpleJack]

 :-D as Nelson would say HA HA

[rescue5271]

We all do it sooner or later,I guess we will see some OHSW stuff come out about this one.....

[misterteddy]

I vote for the MFS approach and staying on the bitumen  :evil:

[Pipster]

I vote for the MFS approach and staying on the bitumen  :evil:

Where's the fun in that?!

Pip

[misterteddy]

I vote for the MFS approach and staying on the bitumen  :evil:

Where's the fun in that?!

Pip

oh I didnt say it was fun....... just the inevitable corporate OHS response to...

We all do it sooner or later,I guess we will see some OHSW stuff come out about this one.....

[fireygal]

Damn lucky they didn't roll it, looking at the pictures. Common sense says don't take the truck off road when the off road looks like that....

[Sarge]

I vote for the MFS approach and staying on the bitumen  :evil:

Where's the fun in that?!

Pip

You tell him pip :)

[Sarge]

So what they just got a bit too close to the edge did they?

[USAR123]

So what they just got a bit too close to the edge did they?

They were driving down the track. Their 14 went through and when the 34 got down the back end stepped out on them. There was even someone on the crew deck.

[BundyBear]

It was a few years ago they rolled their 14 on the way to an incident and Tea Tree Gully got diverted to cut them out now this. Some brigades really need to look at what they do driving at training and incidents.

This is a classic case of the OIC and the driver should be constantly assessing the driving conditions and you have to ask why would they have gone down a wet track and have a fire fighter on the crew deck when just going for a drive.

[Mike]

This is not the place to criticise there decisions or actions. especially based on a couple of photos.

[Alan (Big Al)]

why was someone on the deck while they were driving this track is what i would be asking sheesh  :|

[misterteddy]

umm....cos the appliance is made to have someone sitting strapped into a seatbelt in the rear.... lets not get all prissy about a dirt road (despite my earlier t.i.c. remark)

[BundyBear]

This is not the place to criticise there decisions or actions. especially based on a couple of photos.

That's half the problem with CFS/SES dont critise the volunteer or tell them they have stuffed up, you might hurt their feelings, please!

How about we look for words like learnings for other brigades, opportunities for improvement and stop think identify and control when we are doing anything!

As for driving down a track in the middle of winter why would you have firefighters on the back when you have perfectly good seats and better seatbelts in side the vehicle where it provides a better level of protection, also do those new 34 rural appliance have seatbelts on the rear or is it purely a work deck?!

[tft]

Where is the place to learn and discuss? Yes, some whinge laugh and have  all the answers. But a few might think, lets not do that and learn by others mistakes

[Alan (Big Al)]

I dont think i am being

umm....cos the appliance is made to have someone sitting strapped into a seatbelt in the rear.... lets not get all prissy about a dirt road (despite my earlier t.i.c. remark)

not being prissy at all misterteddy, if they were at a fire fair enough but a slippery track, c'mon. why on earth is a lone firefighter on the crew deck of an appliance during driver training belted in or not anyway....  Isnt there SOP's stating that all members must travel inside the cab (if dual cab) whilst not undertaking firefighting operations??

Is this a brigade installed belt? or was this belt put on this particular build?

[rescue5271]

Bundybear: This is a public forum and I think those that look after this site would rather we did not discuss CFS/SES/MFS/SAAS issues.. Without knowing the full facts of what took place its easy to sit here and have your 50cents worth. I am sure CFS will be sending out a OHSW warning after this problem and also with a member being on the crew deck while not engaged in firefighting...

Big Al you are correct SOPS require where a brigade has a crew cab all crew are to be inside in seatbelts if not engaged in direct firefighting....

[tft]

This is a public forum and I think those that look after this site would rather we did not discuss CFS/SES/MFS/SAAS issues.. W

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Not discuss CFS/SES/MFS/SAAS issues. Have you not seen any post on this forum