Booster Commisioning

Started by 2468, June 04, 2010, 10:17:54 AM

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CFS_Firey

Quote from: 2468 on June 07, 2010, 05:49:09 PM
FIP's aren't something you can just do a course on. 12 main manufacturers each with about 10 designs that are different...

Isn't that like saying fire fighting isn't something you can just do a course on, because every fire is different?

bittenyakka

There is a point where I don't expect all volunteers to know everything. But the FIPs i have used are simple enough and the buttons clearly labelled and often there is a manual there as well. GO out and learn the systems in your area but don;t make your crews learn the systems in town if you are not going to be in town. if you train the ideas and theory well you should be able to fit into bigger operations quite well.

2468

"Isn't that like saying fire fighting isn't something you can just do a course on, because every fire is different?"

Not really. There are some serious gaphics based fire panels being installed that not even the fire companies completely understand. Poor vols who rocked up to see a 9 inch screen touch pad :S

Yeah you are right going out to recce your area is the right thing to do, noticed one of the brigades has been doing this alot in the paging.

Yeah like i said earlier there  are three companies with the trailer pumps and one with an acco.

And like 6739264 said. great to do the testing and commision with these pumps/ trucks but if you dont have a heavy pumper its kind of useless. 24p vs. heavy urban pumper is the exact problem

2468

TOUR OF MOUNT PLEASANT HOSPITAL HYDRANT BOOSTER TONIGHT AT STATION 19:00. - CFS Springton Info

Any ideas what they getting up to with the booster?

Zippy

a 1 in, 2 out pump doing hydrant booster training haha.

2468

Might be more useful to strap some pool pumps to the back of the truck.

6739264

Quote from: Zippy on June 09, 2010, 12:32:05 AM
a 1 in, 2 out pump doing hydrant booster training haha.

THATS WHAT BREACHING PIECES ARE FOR MORON. Duh, Don't you know ANYTHING?

Go back to Level One, do not pass go.

(I once built a 27 in 19.45 out pump, just using Breaching Pieces.)
To think they employed me as a drooling retard...

CFS_Firey

Quote from: 6739264 on June 09, 2010, 12:58:03 PM
(I once built a 27 in 19.45 out pump, just using Breaching Pieces.)

I once built a pump with 1 in and 0 out using breaching and collecting pieces.  It wasn't very useful.

Zippy

Quote from: 6739264 on June 09, 2010, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: Zippy on June 09, 2010, 12:32:05 AM
a 1 in, 2 out pump doing hydrant booster training haha.

THATS WHAT BREACHING PIECES ARE FOR MORON. Duh, Don't you know ANYTHING?

Go back to Level One, do not pass go.

(I once built a 27 in 19.45 out pump, just using Breaching Pieces.)

then again....CFS provide 1 breeching piece per 34 :P

bittenyakka

About breaching pieces. If you run 2 64mm into a Y then have 1 64 coming out the other side can someone with more knowledge of hydraulics tell em if you get more water out? Or are you still just trying to put an elephant through a car door?

2468

Saw one the companies doing the booster flow on Cavan road today. Using a fire truck. massive thing. bigger that the mets trucks i think.

6739264

Quote from: bittenyakka on June 10, 2010, 12:18:41 PM
About breaching pieces. If you run 2 64mm into a Y then have 1 64 coming out the other side can someone with more knowledge of hydraulics tell em if you get more water out? Or are you still just trying to put an elephant through a car door?

Higher pressure coming out dude!
To think they employed me as a drooling retard...

bittenyakka

oh yeah. doh!  :oops:

so lets put 3 breaching pieces on each inlet so we can have 4 24s putting water into each line in  :-P

2468

Whats the difference between boosting with a trailer pump and a truck? Any? Saw a pump trailer being used on Greenhill road today... 6 in 6 out.

Hmm was close to stealing it :P

Darren

Nothing at all, just cheaper to have a pump on a trailer.

Alan (Big Al)

Quote from: 2468 on June 11, 2010, 03:58:20 PM
Whats the difference between boosting with a trailer pump and a truck? Any? Saw a pump trailer being used on Greenhill road today... 6 in 6 out.

Hmm was close to stealing it :P

Crikey do u stalk these things or something, i have never seen one in 13 yrs driving around adelaide  :-P
Lt. Goolwa CFS

6739264

Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on June 11, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
Quote from: 2468 on June 11, 2010, 03:58:20 PM
Whats the difference between boosting with a trailer pump and a truck? Any? Saw a pump trailer being used on Greenhill road today... 6 in 6 out.

Hmm was close to stealing it :P

Crikey do u stalk these things or something, i have never seen one in 13 yrs driving around adelaide  :-P

I can see a pump trailer from where I am right now... (yeah seriously)
To think they employed me as a drooling retard...

2468

Nah not stalk. Just interested and i drive around a lot for work.

rescue5271

There are a few firms in adealide that use a large trailer pump set up its not the same set up as what we use in firefighting and i am sure if you go and talk to these guys that have these pumps you will find out they are CFS members.

6739264

Quote from: Bill Corcoran on June 12, 2010, 09:47:24 AM
There are a few firms in adealide that use a large trailer pump set up its not the same set up as what we use in firefighting and i am sure if you go and talk to these guys that have these pumps you will find out they are CFS members.

You mean its a pump that pumps water... but... not like we use in firefighting? Why? Is it powered by rainbows? Does the water turn into wine? Is it called the Jesus Pump?

What happens in buildings over 75m high that don't have Booster Pump installed to service higher levels?
To think they employed me as a drooling retard...

2468

Water into wine? I'm in.

Yeah the one on greenhill was a trailer pump. looked liked a detroit diesel engine or similiar and the one of cavan was an mfb looking acco.

bajdas

Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on June 11, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
Quote from: 2468 on June 11, 2010, 03:58:20 PM
Whats the difference between boosting with a trailer pump and a truck? Any? Saw a pump trailer being used on Greenhill road today... 6 in 6 out.

Hmm was close to stealing it :P

Crikey do u stalk these things or something, i have never seen one in 13 yrs driving around adelaide  :-P

A few years ago Meadows CFS had a pump trailer in their shed for pumping from dams into a floating collar dam.
Andrew Macmichael
lives at Pt Noarlunga South.

My personal opinion only.

6739264

Quote from: bajdas on June 14, 2010, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on June 11, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
Quote from: 2468 on June 11, 2010, 03:58:20 PM
Whats the difference between boosting with a trailer pump and a truck? Any? Saw a pump trailer being used on Greenhill road today... 6 in 6 out.

Hmm was close to stealing it :P

Crikey do u stalk these things or something, i have never seen one in 13 yrs driving around adelaide  :-P

A few years ago Meadows CFS had a pump trailer in their shed for pumping from dams into a floating collar dam.

Yeah... but don't forget the huge difference between CFS "Pump trailers" and a Real mans pump trailer.
To think they employed me as a drooling retard...

Zippy

i did a bit of hunting.   is this close to a sizable pump trailer?

http://fire-brigade.asn.au/photos/sacfs-onkg-trl.jpg

looks close to 150mm in.   4 out.   Decent.   Powered by a VW engine i believe.

2468

Nah the one i saw was on a dual axle trailer with a massive engine strapped to it... looked to be  a big v8 diesel. 100mm in i think with 6 in/ 6 out. I did some asking around with a few mates. There are three using trailer pumps and one using an acco.