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Offline CFS_Firey

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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2010, 04:02:42 PM »
Quote from: 2468 on June 07, 2010, 06:49:09 PM
FIP's aren't something you can just do a course on. 12 main manufacturers each with about 10 designs that are different...

Isn't that like saying fire fighting isn't something you can just do a course on, because every fire is different?
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2010, 07:00:47 PM »
There is a point where I don't expect all volunteers to know everything. But the FIPs i have used are simple enough and the buttons clearly labelled and often there is a manual there as well. GO out and learn the systems in your area but don;t make your crews learn the systems in town if you are not going to be in town. if you train the ideas and theory well you should be able to fit into bigger operations quite well.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2010, 08:19:11 PM »
"Isn't that like saying fire fighting isn't something you can just do a course on, because every fire is different?"

Not really. There are some serious gaphics based fire panels being installed that not even the fire companies completely understand. Poor vols who rocked up to see a 9 inch screen touch pad :S

Yeah you are right going out to recce your area is the right thing to do, noticed one of the brigades has been doing this alot in the paging.

Yeah like i said earlier there  are three companies with the trailer pumps and one with an acco.

And like 6739264 said. great to do the testing and commision with these pumps/ trucks but if you dont have a heavy pumper its kind of useless. 24p vs. heavy urban pumper is the exact problem
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2010, 08:41:02 PM »
TOUR OF MOUNT PLEASANT HOSPITAL HYDRANT BOOSTER TONIGHT AT STATION 19:00. - CFS Springton Info

Any ideas what they getting up to with the booster?
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2010, 01:32:05 AM »
a 1 in, 2 out pump doing hydrant booster training haha.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2010, 08:44:30 AM »
Might be more useful to strap some pool pumps to the back of the truck.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2010, 01:58:03 PM »
Quote from: Zippy on June 09, 2010, 01:32:05 AM
a 1 in, 2 out pump doing hydrant booster training haha.

THATS WHAT BREACHING PIECES ARE FOR MORON. Duh, Don't you know ANYTHING?

Go back to Level One, do not pass go.

(I once built a 27 in 19.45 out pump, just using Breaching Pieces.)
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2010, 02:40:27 PM »
Quote from: 6739264 on June 09, 2010, 01:58:03 PM
(I once built a 27 in 19.45 out pump, just using Breaching Pieces.)

I once built a pump with 1 in and 0 out using breaching and collecting pieces.  It wasn't very useful.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2010, 03:13:31 PM »
Quote from: 6739264 on June 09, 2010, 01:58:03 PM
Quote from: Zippy on June 09, 2010, 01:32:05 AM
a 1 in, 2 out pump doing hydrant booster training haha.

THATS WHAT BREACHING PIECES ARE FOR MORON. Duh, Don't you know ANYTHING?

Go back to Level One, do not pass go.

(I once built a 27 in 19.45 out pump, just using Breaching Pieces.)

then again....CFS provide 1 breeching piece per 34 :P
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2010, 01:18:41 PM »
About breaching pieces. If you run 2 64mm into a Y then have 1 64 coming out the other side can someone with more knowledge of hydraulics tell em if you get more water out? Or are you still just trying to put an elephant through a car door?
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2010, 07:31:59 PM »
Saw one the companies doing the booster flow on Cavan road today. Using a fire truck. massive thing. bigger that the mets trucks i think.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2010, 07:52:14 PM »
Quote from: bittenyakka on June 10, 2010, 01:18:41 PM
About breaching pieces. If you run 2 64mm into a Y then have 1 64 coming out the other side can someone with more knowledge of hydraulics tell em if you get more water out? Or are you still just trying to put an elephant through a car door?

Higher pressure coming out dude!
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2010, 02:22:25 PM »
oh yeah. doh!  :oops:

so lets put 3 breaching pieces on each inlet so we can have 4 24s putting water into each line in  :-P
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2010, 04:58:20 PM »
Whats the difference between boosting with a trailer pump and a truck? Any? Saw a pump trailer being used on Greenhill road today... 6 in 6 out.

Hmm was close to stealing it :P
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2010, 05:58:30 PM »
Nothing at all, just cheaper to have a pump on a trailer.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2010, 10:01:22 PM »
Quote from: 2468 on June 11, 2010, 04:58:20 PM
Whats the difference between boosting with a trailer pump and a truck? Any? Saw a pump trailer being used on Greenhill road today... 6 in 6 out.

Hmm was close to stealing it :P

Crikey do u stalk these things or something, i have never seen one in 13 yrs driving around adelaide  :-P
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2010, 10:21:56 PM »
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on June 11, 2010, 10:01:22 PM
Quote from: 2468 on June 11, 2010, 04:58:20 PM
Whats the difference between boosting with a trailer pump and a truck? Any? Saw a pump trailer being used on Greenhill road today... 6 in 6 out.

Hmm was close to stealing it :P

Crikey do u stalk these things or something, i have never seen one in 13 yrs driving around adelaide  :-P

I can see a pump trailer from where I am right now... (yeah seriously)
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2010, 03:00:39 AM »
Nah not stalk. Just interested and i drive around a lot for work.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2010, 10:47:24 AM »
There are a few firms in adealide that use a large trailer pump set up its not the same set up as what we use in firefighting and i am sure if you go and talk to these guys that have these pumps you will find out they are CFS members.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2010, 12:12:54 PM »
Quote from: Bill Corcoran on June 12, 2010, 10:47:24 AM
There are a few firms in adealide that use a large trailer pump set up its not the same set up as what we use in firefighting and i am sure if you go and talk to these guys that have these pumps you will find out they are CFS members.

You mean its a pump that pumps water... but... not like we use in firefighting? Why? Is it powered by rainbows? Does the water turn into wine? Is it called the Jesus Pump?

What happens in buildings over 75m high that don't have Booster Pump installed to service higher levels?
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2010, 12:28:17 PM »
Water into wine? I'm in.

Yeah the one on greenhill was a trailer pump. looked liked a detroit diesel engine or similiar and the one of cavan was an mfb looking acco.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2010, 02:48:54 PM »
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on June 11, 2010, 10:01:22 PM
Quote from: 2468 on June 11, 2010, 04:58:20 PM
Whats the difference between boosting with a trailer pump and a truck? Any? Saw a pump trailer being used on Greenhill road today... 6 in 6 out.

Hmm was close to stealing it :P

Crikey do u stalk these things or something, i have never seen one in 13 yrs driving around adelaide  :-P

A few years ago Meadows CFS had a pump trailer in their shed for pumping from dams into a floating collar dam.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2010, 05:37:33 PM »
Quote from: bajdas on June 14, 2010, 02:48:54 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on June 11, 2010, 10:01:22 PM
Quote from: 2468 on June 11, 2010, 04:58:20 PM
Whats the difference between boosting with a trailer pump and a truck? Any? Saw a pump trailer being used on Greenhill road today... 6 in 6 out.

Hmm was close to stealing it :P

Crikey do u stalk these things or something, i have never seen one in 13 yrs driving around adelaide  :-P

A few years ago Meadows CFS had a pump trailer in their shed for pumping from dams into a floating collar dam.

Yeah... but don't forget the huge difference between CFS "Pump trailers" and a Real mans pump trailer.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2010, 01:08:59 AM »
i did a bit of hunting.   is this close to a sizable pump trailer?

http://fire-brigade.asn.au/photos/sacfs-onkg-trl.jpg

looks close to 150mm in.   4 out.   Decent.   Powered by a VW engine i believe.
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Re: Booster Commisioning
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2010, 07:52:12 AM »
Nah the one i saw was on a dual axle trailer with a massive engine strapped to it... looked to be  a big v8 diesel. 100mm in i think with 6 in/ 6 out. I did some asking around with a few mates. There are three using trailer pumps and one using an acco.
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