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SES P1 responses when the SCC opens

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pumprescue:
I was under the impression that if an SES job was warranted P1 that the fire service was to also be responded due to the time it takes the SES to respond and the fact that a P1 job is a life risk. Any reason this doesn't happen and why the protocol isn't followed when the SES SCC is opened ? I am well aware that this isn't always followed when it goes through MFS either, but you think SES would be trying to set an example ?

chook:
Quite correct - in metro areas. However the unit concerned was already active on a P4 task so a quick turn around no big deal really. I thought so anyway :wink:
Anyway stay dry - we are loving the rain here!
cheers

mattb:
That is an interesting poing P/R, you watch the MFS & CFS responding flat out before the SES SCC opens, then they open their call centre and bang nothing at all for the rest of the day, until the SES SCC closes and then off they go again.

Why is there a different level of response just because someone else is handling the call receipt and dispatch ?? Isn't there a Service Level Agreement that any P1 jobs are a dual response ??

Not that I want to run around in the wind and rain, but when you hear that the SES are flat out and can't get to jobs for hours it does seem a little odd that there is not more dual responding happening sometimes.

jaff:
Stacking of jobs = Poor service delivery

chook:
It happens in most states.
Not sure if you guys understand how budgets work but here it goes:-
Fire services - lead agency fire/hazmat (thats what you are budgeted for)
State Emergency Service - lead agency storm flood.
Budgets are based on forcasted spend - usually a mixture of historical data & likely activity for the forcoming year.
Now my guess is that SA Fire services would be "over budget" this year (deployments to Victoria & increased tasking).
Therefore fire service chiefs would be a bit nervous about going further over budget - especially in these times of economic restraint!
And by making the civilians wait a bit for low  priority help they may become more self sufficient (this actually does happen in other states).
I know it seems stupid but that is the real world, infact yourserviceheads would be looking at this on at least a weekly basis.
And if you think volunteers cost nothing, think again:- power, fuel, wear &  tear on equipment etc.
Finally how many of your brigades have the right type & qty of equipment? And are trained? And based on past experience if warranted the SDO would have activated additional crews (even fireservice ones).
If you really want to get wet & cold - join your local unit. If not sit back & relax - until nextfireseason of course.

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