Author Topic: Interstate deployments (Read 49261 times)

6739264 · « **Reply #100 on:** February 25, 2009, 12:43:53 PM »

Quote from: Zippy on February 25, 2009, 12:34:36 PM

youll probably get a good turn around when its not fire season

3 weeks myself.

I would have hoped that July was not classed as 'Fire Season'. I must have been wrong. Its like the Bermuda Triangle up there at R1HQ.

bittenyakka · « **Reply #101 on:** February 25, 2009, 01:12:43 PM »

Quote from: 6739264 on February 25, 2009, 12:05:04 PM

Quote from: bittenyakka on February 25, 2009, 12:02:40 PM
you can drive out to gepps cross if you want

And thus get kicked in the behind by Region...

oh? i know people how have done this and got their gear back the next day, Even though region is "there to help" sometimes mabey you should help yourself

6739264 · « **Reply #102 on:** February 25, 2009, 01:22:40 PM »

Quote from: bittenyakka on February 25, 2009, 01:12:43 PM

oh? i know people how have done this and got their gear back the next day, Even though region is "there to help" sometimes mabey you should help yourself

Yes, I know how much of a short turn around time you can achieve by cutting out the bloated middleman that is Region, but I have had enough of the "Please explain why you didn't follow procedure" firecrackers.

Darren · « **Reply #103 on:** February 25, 2009, 01:51:40 PM »

Members of my brigade have also been chastised for not sending the PBI via region 1 as well. We have a couple members that work that way and were happy to take it in, turn around time was a couple days, but noooo, got to take it to Region so that some person can bag and tag it, to take it to the same place that we took it, sigh....and get it back in several weeks.

As for processing other orders, don't get me started...

SA Firey · « **Reply #104 on:** February 25, 2009, 03:20:45 PM »

Those two articles were a chilling read, reminded me of Ash Wednesday, but as a CFA Captain said "this fire made Ash Wednesday look like a grass fire" No joke

misterteddy · « **Reply #105 on:** February 25, 2009, 09:58:07 PM »

Quote from: Darren on February 25, 2009, 01:51:40 PM

Members of my brigade have also been chastised for not sending the PBI via region 1 as well. We have a couple members that work that way and were happy to take it in, turn around time was a couple days, but noooo, got to take it to Region so that some person can bag and tag it, to take it to the same place that we took it, sigh....and get it back in several weeks.

As for processing other orders, don't get me started...

oh you boys need to live a little more on the wild side.....kids will always bang that fence and the dog will always bark....both are harmless, just fulfilling the expectations we have of both

Alan J · « **Reply #106 on:** February 26, 2009, 01:41:13 AM »

Quote from: chook on February 22, 2009, 07:07:24 PM

Remote monitors and spray bars can be retrofitted, so can larger capacity tanks & halos.

Not if you ask first they can't.
We have been told that we are prohibited from (note "prohibited" as distinct from merely a refusal to pay for) retro-fitting our Suzie FCS750 with a halo system "because it hasn't been tested"

This despite the 750 being one of the vehicles that CSIRO & NSW RFS specifically designed the system around.

Zippy · « **Reply #107 on:** February 26, 2009, 06:51:15 AM »

you then refer the refuser to contact the NSW RFS for the testing paperwork for there FCS750.

get one step ahead of em.

Alan J · « **Reply #108 on:** February 26, 2009, 09:26:08 AM »

I wish I could share your optimism. For example, when the independant OHS inspection organised by CFS failed to find any significant hazards on the 10y/o
PTO 34 appliance we bought from NSW RFS, they did their own in a blatant attempt to keep it out of the fleet. Were miffed when we fixed every one of the
things they raised to prohibit it - rear cab steps too narrow, 20c patch of rust
near the back of the cab roof, no drain holes in the hand grips, non-approved
design of deck access stairs, etc etc. After doing all that plus a re-spray,
the vehicle still cost us less than the pump alone would have, new. Aside from
a couple of minor ergonomic irrits, it is a damn good truck.

Faced with that sort of petty-minded BS, do you think we could possibly believe
the sort of people who drive the OH&S side of our organisation would accept
anything on paper that they didn't generate themselves ?

cheers

Darren · « **Reply #109 on:** February 26, 2009, 05:03:29 PM »

Yes that is silly not allowing burnover protection, then again if you actually asked to purchase the truck that might have helped

Alan J · « **Reply #110 on:** February 27, 2009, 11:27:17 AM »

We did have written approval. On the basis of bringing 2 brigades up to SFEC.

Unfortunately, it was the sort of approval that meant "Yes you can buy one,
but I bet you can't find one that meets the CFS criteria (diesel, <10y/o, etc)
at a price you can afford to pay. Har, har, har."

Belair got our 14 to bring them up to SFEC.
We got a second heavy appliance to bring us up to SFEC.

Smug public servant/s got shirty because volunteers achieved what they either
could not, or would not do. Kind of sours vols-staff relationship.

cheers

Zippy · « **Reply #111 on:** February 27, 2009, 12:03:19 PM »

good work

Sarge · « **Reply #112 on:** February 27, 2009, 01:56:03 PM »

Quote from: 6739264 on February 25, 2009, 11:39:08 AM

I don't know where to wash my nomex. I refuse to do it at home, and the local drycleaner isn't very fond of me rocking up with armfuls of contaminated clothing! If I had to clean my PPE every time it got dirty, then I would be sending away the PBI weekly and the Nomex monthly!

Get your brigade (as others have done) to get their own washing machine

Zippy · « **Reply #113 on:** February 27, 2009, 02:26:38 PM »

Ehhhhh Sarge....Can we enlighten you to why washing machines shouldnt be used.. (Nomex i dont mind washing machines, but i hand wash it anyhow)

Sarge · « **Reply #114 on:** February 27, 2009, 03:00:00 PM »

By all Means do, as well as the thousands of others that use washing machines

Zippy · « **Reply #115 on:** February 27, 2009, 04:58:45 PM »

youll find your comparatively expensive PBI Sets deterioate much faster.....I hope AT THE LEAST when you wash PBI Gold you take the liner out of it.

dont blame ya thought your thoughts, things are done a gazziloin number of ways all over the state. ill just need to arrange 6789382 to straighten you out.

SOP What?

Sarge · « **Reply #116 on:** March 01, 2009, 06:02:00 PM »

Quote from: Zippy on February 27, 2009, 04:58:45 PM

youll find your comparatively expensive PBI Sets deterioate much faster.....I hope AT THE LEAST when you wash PBI Gold you take the liner out of it.

dont blame ya thought your thoughts, things are done a gazziloin number of ways all over the state. ill just need to arrange 6789382 to straighten you out.

SOP What?

Sorry Crossed comms, I was refering to nomex and proban not PBI (That one I'm aware that it has to be sent to Lion).

misterteddy · « **Reply #117 on:** March 01, 2009, 07:00:19 PM »

Quote from: Sarge on March 01, 2009, 06:02:00 PM

Quote from: Zippy on February 27, 2009, 04:58:45 PM
youll find your comparatively expensive PBI Sets deterioate much faster.....I hope AT THE LEAST when you wash PBI Gold you take the liner out of it.

dont blame ya thought your thoughts, things are done a gazziloin number of ways all over the state. ill just need to arrange 6789382 to straighten you out.

SOP What?

Sorry Crossed comms, I was refering to nomex and proban not PBI (That one I'm aware that it has to be sent to Lion).

ahh proban.....soooo 19th century.....anyone know how many washes it takes to lose the proban treatment from the cotton material?

Sarge · « **Reply #118 on:** March 01, 2009, 07:20:29 PM »

Quote from: misterteddy on March 01, 2009, 07:00:19 PM

Quote from: Sarge on March 01, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
Quote from: Zippy on February 27, 2009, 04:58:45 PM
youll find your comparatively expensive PBI Sets deterioate much faster.....I hope AT THE LEAST when you wash PBI Gold you take the liner out of it.

dont blame ya thought your thoughts, things are done a gazziloin number of ways all over the state. ill just need to arrange 6789382 to straighten you out.

SOP What?

Sorry Crossed comms, I was refering to nomex and proban not PBI (That one I'm aware that it has to be sent to Lion).

ahh proban.....soooo 19th century.....anyone know how many washes it takes to lose the proban treatment from the cotton material?

You can still wash it in a machine just not too often.

Alan J · « **Reply #119 on:** March 01, 2009, 09:08:34 PM »

Quote from: misterteddy on March 01, 2009, 07:00:19 PM

ahh proban.....soooo 19th century.....anyone know how many washes it takes to lose the proban treatment from the cotton material?

I have seen one manufacturers blurb claiming 500 washes with minimal effect.
In detergent.

They specify very clearly, in upper-case type to use detergent, not soap.

I suspect therefore, that ordinary soap removes it rather quicker.
But how much quicker is anyone's guess.

cheers

bittenyakka · « **Reply #120 on:** March 02, 2009, 07:44:29 AM »

well i believe mine said to use lux flakes or something similar. ( thought that was soap)

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #121 on:** March 02, 2009, 10:21:14 AM »

The instructions that came with my PBI Gold said to wash it in a normal washing machine. Not sure it said anything about removing the liner either... Where are you getting your info Zippy?