Upgrading it early to a 2nd alarm was appropriate, then once a reassessment was made with the threat reduced, brigades were stood down quickly.
I don't know about you, but having upwards of 10 brigades responding to an incident is by no means a '2nd Alarm'.
LOL...the amount of rescues they do...it is required. More so when the Rescue gear goes in for servicing. etc.
So pretty much right now the situation is:
Entrapments job Brukunga > Mt Barker Rescue
Entrapments job Morphett St, Mt Barker > Stirling Rescue
If rescue gear goes in for servicing, there should be a replacement set on the truck.
As far as who goes where, yes as others have said, according to the green book you have the responses correct. Rapid intervention will not change that, all that have Rapid Intervention capabilities on a truck allows is a more immediate (rapid) rescue (intervention) if required.
Mt Barker do not have RIV, it was asked for when the old rescue was taken away, RIV to be put on dennis at the time and now the 34P, region said not required....
Entrapments job Morphett St, Mt Barker > Stirling Rescue
which would default to Burnside or Blackwood during the week
Pfft, nah...lobethal would be close enough, but they wouldnt know what hit them if they were called for a rescue job in Mt Barker's area.
Meadow and Strathalbyn would be quicker than Lobie, Blackwood and Burnside would they?
I would think:
Quickest to Slowest: Mt Barker, Stirling, Lobethal, Meadows, Burnside, Strath, Blackwood.
Ok. Lets put aside all this bickering and play a scenario, according to the book, to demonstrate how Rescue responses, and RIV works.
Mt. Barker gets turned out to a job, at Nairne, with entrapments. Barker Rescue turns out for rescue response and Nairne 24P turns out for fire cover. Crew get to work. As crews are working, there is another rescue job on the Mt. Barker Freeway exit. More entrapments.
CURRENTLY: The 2nd rescue (Stirling) would turnout, meaning there was no rescue resource on scene for atleast the time it takes to drive from Stirling -> Mt. Barker. This means that any need for an immediate release of the patient must wait a substantial amount of time. Mt. Barker 34P turns out for fire cover, and sits around waiting for Stirling to arrive, unable to effect any release.
WITH RAPID INTERVENTION STOWAGE: The 2nd Rescue (Still Stirling) turns out as the initial 'Rescue Resource' to the incident. Mt. Barker 34P turns out, and are able to provide fire cover, like before, but more importantly they are also able to begin getting tools to work on the vehicle to extricate the patient as necessary. If they encounter problems, thats ok, the Rescue is still en route. If they encounter no issues and get the patient out of the vehicle, thats awesome and they can stop call the Rescue.
Rapid Intervention Capability is not about replacing the Rescue resource, but allowing more versatility for responses within the response area of a Rescue brigade. For a Brigade like Mt. Barker, this also allows their Rescue/Pumper to be plumbed into an incident, yet still have rescue coverage in their area.
Just a question re: Road Crash Rescue Arrangements SA.
Do CFS operators understand the equipment standard for RCR?
Rapid Intervention Equipment i.e combitools do not meet this standard in SA - period!
So it does not matter if you have ten trucks & Nine of them carry Rapid Intervention, if your rescue is not available (with the correct equipment) then you can't respond as rescue.
Now I know that some don't like it & this particular subject has been discussed too many times before but to suggest purchasing more equipment (which does not meet the standard) just so your particular brigade can get to the job is just a waste of money!
CFS Rescue Operators SHOULD understand the equipment standard to be listed as a Rescue Resource, but you are right many don't.
Why can't their be two standards, like the good old days that allow the provision of 1st/2nd/heavy Rescue? Just add RIV into the mix
You should know as well as I do that for 90% of rescue jobs a Combitool is more than enough and is often more versatile and faster to use than the larger and heavier hydraulic equipment. I don't believe, unlike some assumptions and suggestions made here, that a Combitool and pump are enough to qualify as Rapid Intervention as there are a few other items, eg: small rams, that have have specific uses that you cannot replicate with a single combitool.
As I have tried to point out above, having Rapid Intervention Equipment on a truck is not by any mean meant to replace a rescue resource. It is meant to compliment the rescue stowage, on a separate appliance, to allow an already qualified brigade to provide a better level of service to their rescue area. It's not all about empire building.
Bronto I know how the RIV gear can be used (used it myself Hurst Roadrunner), however thats not what guys on this forum were talking about. The way I read the post, if a combi tool was available the other rescue resources wouldn't be needed. Of course this would be true as long as its not a difficult rescue and involving inline extracation.
This one of my two greatest fears of a combined service, high profile brigades getting everything they want while everyone else gets the basics (including a combitool instead of proper hydraulics).
If you're making your judgement of "RIV gear" on the Hurst Roadrunner, I would suggest you look at something a little more modern
The fact that the Roadrunner had incorporated parrot beak blades, rather than the straight blade certainly effects it's performance as a combitool, and severely limits its use in an RCR scenario. I'm also a bit worried that you refer to a single tool as RIV gear, when the combi tool really should not be relied upon as the be all and end all of RIV gear, do you even know what would/should constitute RIV stowage? As i keep saying, RIV is not meant to replace the appropriate fully stowed rescue resource being turned out.
For the whole Rapid Intervention system to work, there would need to be a clearly defined stowage list for "Rapid Intervention" as well as a listing for brigade/appliances that can be turned out with RIV capabilities.
Finally, "High Profile" Brigade, or the brigades that do the work, push the envelope and actually require the gear?
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