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rescue5271

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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #225 on: January 04, 2006, 03:13:48 PM »
So what about groups that have gone out and bought the PBI gold gear,will they get money back from CFS????Its good that the goverment is going to give CFS the money but also keep in mind the number of members that still wear the old gear with no stripping on it as was the case at the burra fire on TV the other night.....
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #226 on: January 04, 2006, 06:49:04 PM »
Quote from: rescue5271 on January 04, 2006, 03:13:48 PM
Its good that the goverment is going to give CFS the money but also keep in mind the number of members that still wear the old gear with no stripping on it as was the case at the burra fire on TV the other night.....

eh?? thats where the proban is going bill....
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #227 on: January 19, 2006, 03:26:21 PM »
If PBI can cause heat stress to people just standing outside a burning house and is very very hot, wouldnt it be worse in 400celsius house fire heat???


I think the heat from today is making me think to much, very slow hot boring day.
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #228 on: January 19, 2006, 04:04:38 PM »
The idea is that you won't be in the house for more than 30mins because your B.A cylinder won't last more than that anyway.

Plus your in the shade inside a structure fire..... :-P :lol:
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #229 on: January 19, 2006, 04:57:27 PM »
Quote from: P_F on January 19, 2006, 03:26:21 PM
If PBI can cause heat stress to people just standing outside a burning house and is very very hot, wouldnt it be worse in 400celsius house fire heat???

The PBI Gold is designed to protect you from radiant heat, just as much as ambient heat (convection). Hence, inside a house fire, you'll last longer, because the heat takes longer to reach you through all the gear. ;) The moisture barrier also protects you from being burnt by steam (probably the most common cause of fire-fighter burns). 
Ask anyone whose done the Compartment fire behavior course with PBI Gold whether they would want to do it with nomex. I know even though it was stinking hot to wear, when I was in those crates, i was incredibly grateful for it! :)
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #230 on: January 20, 2006, 05:49:53 AM »
Quote from: CFS_firey on January 19, 2006, 04:57:27 PM
Ask anyone whose done the Compartment fire behavior course with PBI Gold whether they would want to do it with nomex. I know even though it was stinking hot to wear, when I was in those crates, i was incredibly grateful for it! :)

It was handy having the PBI for the other drills as well..... was a cool day, and very nice not to get drenched practicing gas cooling and tactical entries!
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #231 on: February 01, 2006, 10:29:32 AM »
How many Brigades have actually had fittings and or taken delivery of their new PBI gold as a gift from the CFS and Government, and did ALL of your BA wearers get the new gear?
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #232 on: February 01, 2006, 10:48:11 AM »
We havent heard a thing... and noone in my brigade/group will tell me anything.. so who knows... we may have had a dodgy pulled. im not happy  :x
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #233 on: February 01, 2006, 11:10:53 AM »
All we have been told is that lion will be coming out to do fittings. But as to when who knows, they suggested that all the PBI gear would be issued by june?(was that this year?) I think they had better get a move on cause its already feb and we all know how long things take to happen.
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #234 on: February 01, 2006, 11:27:54 AM »
mmm... i think we may have been screwed over.
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #235 on: February 01, 2006, 11:35:13 AM »
Ive noticed lots of pager messages being sent about fitting sessions though....
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #236 on: February 01, 2006, 11:55:24 AM »
They cant screw CFS over hwen it was publicly announced.  That would make real bad publicity for the government to do that.
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #237 on: February 01, 2006, 12:13:49 PM »
Remember they are purchasing over 1000 sets of PBI, this would take some time, coordination and maufacturing time. Seeing as the announcement was only a few months ago and we have had a very busy season so far, I'm not suprised that there would be a delay.
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #238 on: February 01, 2006, 12:16:38 PM »
Quote from: P F on February 01, 2006, 11:55:24 AM
They cant screw CFS over hwen it was publicly announced.  That would make real bad publicity for the government to do that.

ill re=phrase... being screwed over, by our group.
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #239 on: February 01, 2006, 12:28:20 PM »
Quote from: medevac on February 01, 2006, 12:16:38 PM
Quote from: P F on February 01, 2006, 11:55:24 AM
They cant screw CFS over hwen it was publicly announced.  That would make real bad publicity for the government to do that.

ill re=phrase... being screwed over, by our group.

okay

Did the government give the CFS money to buy PBI or they are working with CFS to get it supplied.  Im sure that they would make sure any money they give is used apporpriately for what they intend it to be used upon.
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #240 on: February 01, 2006, 12:33:10 PM »
My brigade / group was fitted last year...
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #241 on: February 01, 2006, 02:29:25 PM »
Quote from: Firefrog on February 01, 2006, 12:13:49 PM
Remember they are purchasing over 1000 sets of PBI, this would take some time, coordination and manufacturing time. Seeing as the announcement was only a few months ago and we have had a very busy season so far, I'm not surprised that there would be a delay.
From what I understand, Lion Apparel already have all the PBI Gold sitting in their warehouse, they are just waiting for the money... All the CFS has to do is send them a cheque, and they already have the measurements and addresses of everyone whose been fitted.
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #242 on: February 01, 2006, 03:11:04 PM »
well it is election time :evil:
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #243 on: February 01, 2006, 04:35:43 PM »
it is? :?
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #244 on: February 02, 2006, 12:39:11 PM »
Quote from: medevac on February 01, 2006, 04:35:43 PM
it is? :?
State election should be next month
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #245 on: February 02, 2006, 01:01:42 PM »
Quote from: strikeathird on February 01, 2006, 12:33:10 PM
My brigade / group was fitted last year...
Had 3 different dates to be fitted last year all were cancelled by Lion. Not sure of the reason for this but it would have made life easier now if they went ahead.
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Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« Reply #246 on: February 02, 2006, 06:53:19 PM »
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