Paid jobs

[Katrina]

Just kinda curious as to what procedures are followed when it comes to appointing paid staff within CFS. How are the positions supposed to be advertised or can they just appoint anyone they feel like without advertising the positions. I am talking about both office staff as well as positional ones

[Zippy]

they are advertised through the SA Government Vacancies pages in Career One and on the Website.


Personally i think its a bit of a conspiracy ;)

[Shiner]

Fairly hefty process to employ anyone to work in state government, even a temp.

Firstly, it is not always guaranteed that when someone leaves a position, that the position will be continued or re-filled.

The normal process, once approval is gained to refil, depending on whether it is ongoing or a time-based position (eg to cover someone going on long service leave/maternity etc), the position is then 'called'.

The initial call can be made internally at first which means only other state government employees can apply.  If a successful applicant is not gained, the position is then called externally (often these days the external call is made in parallel with the internal).  These jobs appear on www.vacancies.sa.gov.au and are open for a fortnight normally.  The site is updated once a week.

Most jobs these days are also advertised in local press for the area and often in the Career One supplement of the Advertiser.

This is where it can really get confusing with the requirements of an application which can range from just a CV to all manner of other things such as written responses to the main criteria of the job.  There is a fine art to a job application for the state government!!!!

Once all of this is done, including panel interviews etc, only then (in theory) if a suitable person is not identified, then an agency can be approached to supply someone on an hourly rate......

Although the system is aimed at being impartial and gaining the most appropriate person for a job, there is plenty of room for manouvre, if you know what I mean!!!  :evil:

[K55]

Did anyone on here apply for the round of paid jobs? I think it was the Coordination Officer positions?

[Zippy]

I did, unsuccessful...think i know where i have to improve the humongus Application, and i also needed to do several things like typing tests even tho i know for myself im capable. 

Also i think they already found there ideal people internally.

35ish applications were recieved for 2 positions, and its funny that i know that since part of the job description is to be a Info gatherer/Intelligence officer in the SCC ;)

[rescue5271]

In the last week or so CFS has lost around 9 paid staff who have all resigned so there may be more jobs coming up... I think Katrina is asking should all jobs be advertised rather than being in the right place at the right time or better still I know a job is coming up would you like to have it...... CFS like any government department has to advertise any job and the process is very long and can take months,If you have been employed by CFS or who ever before and you know or hear that there is a postion going then you should be able to get a interview and if you get all the ticks then the job is your's....

[Heavy Rescue]

Hey Bill, I also heard a few staff had resigned in the last week or two, but 9 is a lot, especially out of a workforce of 90 odd

The ones I heard were

Tim Davis from HQ
Simon Vogel from Region 6
Narelle Rawnesly from Region 2
Neil Ellis from Air Ops
Anthony Thorpe from Region 1

Who else is going ??

Maybe the staff get treated as well as the vollies and that is why they are all leaving, I guess this means less people to look after our needs for a while.

[Shiner]

I heard it was more like 12 with more from Region 1 than listed above.

[rescue5271]

Region five has lost two staff one has resigned and one is going back to the city to work but still staying on with CFS... With summer knocking at the door dont know how they will fill these spot's with new blood.....

[Zippy]

OUCH!

[misterteddy]

Hey Bill, I also heard a few staff had resigned in the last week or two, but 9 is a lot, especially out of a workforce of 90 odd

The ones I heard were

Tim Davis from HQ
Simon Vogel from Region 6
Narelle Rawnesly from Region 2
Neil Ellis from Air Ops
Anthony Thorpe from Region 1

Who else is going ??

Maybe the staff get treated as well as the vollies and that is why they are all leaving, I guess this means less people to look after our needs for a while.

Add Stoney to the list

[Zippy]

hmm..i thought Stoney left a while back..what exactly did stoney "do" anyhow?

[rescue5271]

He was working in a LOGISTICS job oversea's and so has taken a full time job there I guess he will come back to SA one day....

[safireservice]

Hey Bill, I also heard a few staff had resigned in the last week or two, but 9 is a lot, especially out of a workforce of 90 odd

The ones I heard were

Tim Davis from HQ
Simon Vogel from Region 6
Narelle Rawnesly from Region 2
Neil Ellis from Air Ops
Anthony Thorpe from Region 1

Who else is going ??

Maybe the staff get treated as well as the vollies and that is why they are all leaving, I guess this means less people to look after our needs for a while.

Pretty sure Tim's been gone for a while and Narelle only transferred to Waymouth st? didnt actually leave?

[Seagrave]

I thought that the CFS/MFS/SAFECOM are going to start recruiting off this forum! Everyone on here is a rocket scientist specialising in fire service operations...you are all in the running for CHIEF!!!  :-D

[K55]

So have they announced who got the State Coordination jobs? It would be a good foot in the door in the world of Career CFS.

[Katrina]

Okay I'll get quite specific then, there was an admin job at region 5 that must have just been offered to someone (only part time) because the job was never advertised at all and I was curious to know what the procedure was because I would have liked the chance to at least look at what the job entailed and maybe have applied for it. The first that I knew about the job was when someone said to me that they had been offered the job there, just wondered it you have to be friendly with the people in the office so that they give you a job. I would have assumed that there should be some procedure to follow and was curious

[rescue5271]

MMMMMMM, Kat, I know the girl who got the job and she has worked for CFS before and she does a great job and when she was there before she was well liked by the staff and those with in region five who had contact with her. May be it was because of this that she got the job..... I am sure if you keep a EYE out that you will see some jobs coming up....

[6739264]

MMMMMMM, Kat, I know the girl who got the job and she has worked for CFS before and she does a great job and when she was there before she was well liked by the staff and those with in region five who had contact with her. May be it was because of this that she got the job..... I am sure if you keep a EYE out that you will see some jobs coming up....

That may be so, but there are also numerous other things that you can do to get the jobs that come up...

Sad, but its the way SACFS seems to operate.

[Katrina]

Yeah, but the point is Bill that there is no point in keeping an eye out for the job coming up because it was never advertised in the first place! So how do ya get a foot in the door when the staff already there can just employ their friends and people that they like?!

[whitecloud]

MMMMMMM, Kat, I know the girl who got the job and she has worked for CFS before and she does a great job and when she was there before she was well liked by the staff and those with in region five who had contact with her. May be it was because of this that she got the job..... I am sure if you keep a EYE out that you will see some jobs coming up....

That may be so, but there are also numerous other things that you can do to get the jobs that come up...

Sad, but its the way SACFS seems to operate.

I say, was that innuendo good fellow?

Unfortunately, it seems that like with many places, if you wish to advance its not a case of what you know, but WHO you know... biblically or otherwise

[6739264]

I say, was that innuendo good fellow?

Unfortunately, it seems that like with many places, if you wish to advance its not a case of what you know, but WHO you know... biblically or otherwise

Tally ho old chap! Knowing people biblically is far more advantageous in the CFS compared to the 'otherwise' interpretation of the term.

Now I'm off for a spot a Jerry Bashing! Time to take the fight right to the Boche!

[rescue5271]

Hey Katrina if you are unhappy how this position was filled then you can take it further,but just remember once you do then you will then become part of that group in region five who end up on the HIT list....As you know I am second from the top.....

[Darius]

only second Bill?  you've got more work to do then!  (and now you've made me curious who numero uno is)

re. filling vacancies, I would have expected CFS, like any employer to first fill any vacancies from within it's own before going externally.  There is an entry level admin position in region 1 going and probably an RO position or two as well (ads to appear shortly).

(PS. thorpy technically hasn't resigned but taken 12 months leave)

[Zippy]

Seemed to appear today...

REGIONAL OPERATIONS PLANNING OFFICER
(MORE THAN ONE POSITION) (Advt)

Location: Region 1 Mt Barker, Region 2 Willaston, Region 6 Port Lincoln

Essential Minimum Qualifications: A relevant tertiary qualification at dilpoma (AQF-5) level or above.    ;)

Seems like Region Ops Plannings been hit hard over the state....