house fire

[Darren]

Wow a lot of defensive people on here. In a normal world going by the EMA agreement, you are to send ONLY the truck asked for. In unusual or busy times you still send the one truck and ASK if more are required. The issue is sending trucks willy nilly, when NOT asked for...yes they might say thanks, but it makes the job so much harder, especailly when comms don't know your sending 2 or 3 trucks that haven't been asked for.

THATS the issue here....

Moving along.

[Hazmat206]

202 is actually 209...but for dispatching purposes it had to be 202 to not conflict with 204

and ive heard its becoming 339 anyway...hence the New volvo becoming either 201 or 202...

If/when it becomes 339, will elizabeth become a 3 appliance station or a pumper be diverted somewhere else?

[edit: fixed quoting]

[Firey9119]

facts people- Salisbury CFS were being turned out all night on Wednesday by themselves due to 2 domestic fires in Elizabeth (ps no chg of quarters, just CFS response)and yes Salisbury CFS rolled two trucks out the door to a MVA into MFS area as they were the only responders, no other MFS appliances were dispatched.And guess what, the job was done and done well!!!

To be honest i dont understand this whole thread, Salisbury CFS do over 450 calls a year so it is not in their interest to drum up extra calls or even dispatch more trucks than necessary due to the busy nature of the brigade. There will always be a minority of people that play the "what about us" card but I would suggest that is not the feelings of the total brigade.

As far as I am concerned if the pager goes of trucks will roll out the door as deemed appropriate at the time by the OIC. if that response is deemed to be inappropriate by MFS in MFS area speak to someone of rank, ask questions give people the chance to learn if mistakes are made, dont just bitch on an internet forum where nothing will get done to address an issue if it is there.

and yes, i am a very proud member of Salisbury CFS

well said grant!!!

btw we missed you at the 3 calls tonight?

[SA Firey]

Meanwhile back to the house fire :-P

[Cameron Yelland]

Meanwhile back to the house fire :-P

Go home ....its a car park!  :lol:

[2468]

Okay just so we all remember we are a voluntary fire service... we are not full time paid. Yes we do an awesome job but we should be glad we don't get called out, less call outs means less fires.

We are here to serve the community not to debate how the MFS conduct their business... and to those whom want more and more work for their brigade, don't its just over resourcing jobs, and using up precious funds.

[Katrina]

Hey cool, fun and interesting discussion (some of it going around in circles so fast I've got dizzy reading this thread) but hey I like it (then again I like stirring myself and a few of ya have got it down to a fine art)
Numbers there are certain wicked and evil things about ya that I really like!!!

[chook]

Be careful - very careful! :-D

[RescueHazmat]

Stirring..!?!?!.. No one here stirs the pot Katrina..

[TillerMan]

If the responses are all approved and pre organised etc like you say then why does only 1 appliance come up on 150 and the rest go stealth? Like a house fire months ago out there when the duty officer said don't come up on 150 to the second truck and the regional spare and the tanker and Dalkeith hazmat...

[Zippy]

that sounds nuff nuff..

[Gilly]

Numbers there are certain wicked and evil things about ya that I really like!!!

sounds like a wierd kinda messed up dating site... your in Numbers....  :wink:

[Zippy]

Go Numbers! or checkout the latest member: "1328691"

[SA Firey]

Go Numbers! or checkout the latest member: "1328691"

Maybe he could change his profile name to "Numbers" :wink:

[RescueHazmat]

:roll:

[ltdan]

As I was trying to suggest earlier in the thread as well, its in places like Mt. Lofty group that get 9 trucks to a small shed fire, block the road and look like a bunch of retards because people don't think about whats been turned out, whats at the job already and whats needed. Got the 12 at the job and the 24P is crewed 10mins later? ASK if its needed. Need another resource? Try to get it from a Brigade already assigned rather than get another whole brigade and 100 trucks turned out.

Got an example !!

[Zippy]

Vehicle Fire/RCR, 2 Car , Crafers on Freeway.  during 1st quarter of 08 i think.

Stirling Pump, 12, Rescue, Tanker (20mins between first and last)
Aldgate 12
Burnside Pumper
Piccadilly 24
Glen Osmond 441
Lofty duty officer

[ltdan]

So guessing, looking at this example.

Freeway:  1st problem exacty location? Leawood Gardens, Mt.Osmond, Stirling Etc.

BOMS does not help the system eg:  Will respond Stirling and Aldgate automatically to any job to the Mt. Osmond Overpass, Burnside and Glen Osmond up to the Crafers interchange.

Is the fire on the up or on the down.

Can't explain the Lofty Duty Officer response but. 

I was under the understanding that Piccadilly did not want to respond to the freeway this was the discussion I had with their Captain earlier in the year.

[Zippy]

Location: Near Crafers interchange...paged as "unknown specific location"

I was under the understanding that Piccadilly did not want to respond to the freeway this was the discussion I had with their Captain earlier in the year.

I believe there is mixed feeligs about this in there brigade...probably not the appropriate appliance in there possession for doing so i would think.  When Piccadilly 24 gets replaced, i assume responding to the freeway will be re-visited.

When it comes down to it, when Stirling and Aldgate both have a bad day with crewing, The Stirling-Tunnels section of the freeway is Piccadilly's area.

[Firefrog]

Play nice in the sand pit kids. And please don't use language or terms that demean others.
If you have please edit your posts.

By all means make your point but do it using constructive well constructed sentences. You make yourself look fairly average when certain terms are thrown around. Think about it.....

There are better ways to make a point....

Now back to the topic.

[6739264]

Got an example !!

Ok, Capt. Crankypants, have a look at nearly *ANY* of Mt. Lofty groups working structure fires over the past few years. A large number of them have turned into a truck parking lot on the road outside the fire. This is usually only caused by Brigades self responding every truck they can, when there is no need to.

No need to go blowing up about it, I'm not having a go at anyone, just trying to suggest to people that we can do things better and in a more professional manner. Next time you go to that MVA up the road with your 12, does the 24 really need to come to?

[bittenyakka]

Piccadilly's response for the freeway is that we go if the pager goes and don;t if it doesn't. Sometimes we get the gig and other times it is Aldgate and know one knows why. :-D

[RescueHazmat]

You go if the pager goes, and you don't if it doesn't?... - Guess thats a good thing..

[Firefrog]

Keep it friendly - talk the issue not the person. Don't get personal please.

[Pipster]

You go if the pager goes, and you don't if it doesn't?... - Guess thats a good thing..

Unlike various other brigades all around the state, who respond to calls even if they haven't been called.....!

Pip