New Bronto

[Hazmat206]

I've noticed the SAMFS has a new bronto. Does any one know if it will replace the current 2015?

[Zippy]

it would replace 205...205 would become 2015..and 2015 would become a spare or 2025 ;)  and Goodbye Abbey!

[Hazmat206]

thanks

[Hazmat206]

my bad and appologies!

[bittenyakka]

If you are the guy who took that pic you are asking really dumb questions and it you aern't get rid of it now. Notice the copy right

[SA Firey]

Hmmm no picture anymore maybe this thread should be removed now.

Anyone who infringes my copyright will get a nice letter from someone, so make sure you have lots of money :wink:

[6739264]

So you reckon the new truck will replace the oldest truck in a secondary standby role and not be used as the front running truck?

FOR SURE.

[RescueHazmat]

lol numbers.


We clearly have another 'winner' within the forum ranks hey..

[6739264]

Sounds like he might be a Bronto operator himself...

[RescueHazmat]

:lol:

[SA Firey]

Sounds like he might be a Bronto operator himself...

I highly doubt that :-P

[RescueHazmat]

Think that one hit the brim of your cap as it flew over your head mate.. ;)

[jaff]

Is this new Bronto the fat one?  :wink:

[Hazmat206]

fat one?

[CFS_Firey]

Phat one?

[Hazmat206]

that's what i thought!
yeh, it's tough alright, still a scania but the current model. Bit of a facelift from current 205. Improved L.E.D lights on grille

[jaff]

yeh failed BMI by 40, damn you bmi, damn you  :-D

[jaff]

When does "Big" bronto become road legal :-)

[SA Firey]

When does "Big" bronto become road legal :-)

As soon as the final bits and pieces are finished,MDT is being fitted at present :wink:

[topjake]

New Bronto needs some slimming a little to fat in the waist line so needs to be modified to be operational. :( 

[CFS_Firey]

New Bronto needs some slimming a little to fat in the waist line so needs to be modified to be operational. :( 

Sounds like a few CFS fire fighters...

[Hazmat206]

THE Metropolitan Fire Service has rejected a restricted access permit from Transport SA amid a four-month stalemate over a new $1.3 million fire truck.

The Scania-Bronto aerial appliance was showcased at a national firefighters conference in Adelaide in September, but since then has remained mothballed in an Angle Park depot because Transport SA bureaucrats will not license it for all South Australian roads.

Emergency Services Minister Michael Wright said he only became aware of the licensing problem today, after revelations in The Advertiser.

He blamed the vehicle's manufacturer, Finnish-based Bronto Skylift, for not building the unit that is popular with fire services across the country to specifications contained in a contract.

"It's non-conforming ... once the supplier has fulfilled all the requirements with regard to the contract, it will then be given the appropriate permits to be able to go on all the roads we want it to go and we will be away," Mr Wright said.

This is despite the same vehicle, and other larger appliances, having been licensed in four other states.

In similar situations interstate, special dispensation has been provided to emergency services vehicles.

It is the second vehicle registration problem in 12 months for the MFS. In late 2007, the MFS's new $1.4 million hi-tech Incident Command Vehicle was stranded interstate while bureaucrats argued over how it should be classified.

That was despite an identical ICV being in service with the Melbourne Fire Brigade.

Transport authorities say the new Bronto unit exceeds the legal rear axle load limit by about 340kg. The vehicle weighs about 27 tonnes.

It will cost the manufacturer about $35,000 to modify the wheel base by up to 400mm to comply with Transport SA guidelines.

A Transport Department spokeswoman said a restricted access permit, allowing the Bronto to be used on most roads for day-to-day operations and all roads for emergency calls, had been offered.

But MFS chief officer and chief executive Grant Lupton today said he would not accept that permit because the vehicle had to be licensed for unlimited use in SA.

He said a "compromise" had been negotiated with Transport SA after bureaucrats last year licensed the ICV only for use on Transport Department roads, meaning it could not go on roads under local council control.

For non-emergency operations, a permit has been issued for the ICV to travel on department roads and approved local roads that have been assessed as safe and suitable with council agreement.

Transport SA will not allow unlimited access for the ICV or the Bronto because of the poor condition of some roads.

But industry sources said it was common for other heavier vehicles to be granted special permits by Transport SA.

Sources said the issue was more about an "internal battle" between the MFS and Transport SA bureaucrats.

Mr Lupton said SA standards were "higher and more restrictive" than those interstate.

However, Mr Wright said "safety was always the highest priority".

Opposition road safety spokesman Stephen Wade today said the Government was "neglecting road maintenance and not maintaining control of its own bureaucracy".

"We've got to upgrade our roads, we've got to make sure that our emergency services have state of the art equipment," he said.

A spokesman for Bronto Skylift said work was being undertaken to modify the new vehicle to comply with SA guidelines.

He declined further comment.

[6739264]

Hahaha, oh dearie me...

[misterteddy]

yes....very interesting...more than a few questions floating around as to why u (the MFS/SAFECOM you that is) would sign off on the tender for something that didnt meet the licensing legislation in the first place....oh....bit like the ICV too I guess

As an aside...the Vic ICV hasnt been used either...in fact its been all but black banned for the last 12 months or so...

[jaff]

Is this new Bronto the fat one?  :wink:

It was a fat one back then, and its still a fat bugga!

Personaly I like the idea of not letting this new appliance get registered, its so, so ...............Adelaide :-D