Grass fires from the crew deck

[Sarge]

Basicly it sound to me like the CFS needs to investigate the possibility of spliting rural trucks into 2 designs Hills\Forest appliances (without crew deck) & Plains\Flatlands Appliances (with crew deck)

[Zippy]

sounds good Sarge!

[rescue5271]

That would be the way to go and would make life easy when it comes to moving on appliances after they ahve been  in a busy brigade for 4/5 years...

[Firefrog]

:x Keep it on topic. The topic of this thread is Grass fires from the crew deck.

Firefrog - all bitching and moaning from some asied in this topic. I believe the discussion re; urban/rural classifications is on topic, as it determines whether the crew decks are even on appliances....  :?

Yes - Agree as long as the point of the discussion on urban/rural is intended to support a discussion on the topic of grass fire attack from the crew deck....... :-)

[bajdas]

Is the monitor seen on the front of Dalkeith's 34 a way of the future for the quick knock-down of a running grass fire ?

In the scenario described, you still would have two on the crew deck for blacking out I assume.

[Zippy]

nah you wouldnt have crew on the crew deck for blackening out....pretty much only for Knocking the fire down...

[Mike]

The only way to black out a fire is to get off the truck.

The 24 specials were the answer to a hill/forrest appliance. In reality the 34's have moved more towards that theory anyway.

[6739264]

On the ground, hose in one hand, axe in the other - The only way to black out! ;)

[Mike]

dont forget the BA set - leave the mask in the truck ;) :roll:

[6739264]

And here I was being serious for once... :D

[OMGWTF]

an axe??? i thought that was what the macleod tool was for numbers ;)

[6739264]

Nothing gets through logs/trees/bark/rocks/fenceposts/etc like an axe. Push, pull, chop, slice, knock, wegde, lever! MacLoed tool is great... for cutting fire breaks and structural overhaul! ;)

I used to be a MacLeod man, but then saw the light!  :evil:

[Alan J]

I used to be a MacLeod man, but then saw the light!  :evil:

I used to be a McLeod man too, but then I became an officer.  :-D  :-D

McLeods are better for digging over piles of smouldering rubbish & root
systems than an axe. We'd see more of these than logs & etc needing opening.

On-topic.... being from a Hills brigade, fighting running fires from the
crew deck is something we just don't do. Easy to pick the brigades that do
though... they are the ones trying to mop-up or black-out scrub from the crew
deck. 

There is a time & a place to do the crew deck thing.
There's also a time & place to get off the truck with axe, rakehoe, & live
reel, & burn some serious calories.
Who actually teaches officers how to tell the difference??

cheers

[6739264]

I used to be a MacLeod man, but then saw the light!  :evil:

I used to be a McLeod man too, but then I became an officer.  :-D  :-D

McLeods are better for digging over piles of smouldering rubbish & root
systems than an axe. We'd see more of these than logs & etc needing opening.

Haha, for sure. I just don't want to confuse the black and white arguments that happen around here by suggesting that what you use all depends on the situation ;)

[Zippy]

Cmon im sure Mr Mcleod, must be kicking himself for inventing that now lol

[Robert-Robert34]

Robert34 asked about the MAD RABBIT,well it may be coming back as the group officer who made it is looking at making a new one that will meet all the OHSW requirements. It came up last year when i was on the regional training committee and we all agreed at the time that it was something that needed looking at. I have seen photos of this set up and the crews at work looks very interesting

I remember doing the Mad Rabbit exercise at group training days when i was a cadet it was fun chasing after a trailer with live fire coming out of it  :wink: 

[JJD]

Not everyone needs a specific hills/forest or grass/crop design. Our area includes everything from level grasslands and crops to hills so steep you can hardly drag a hose up. We have the older build 34p (2005? build) and this appliance suits us perfectly.

[JJD]

wow that mad rabbit sounds like something sparks and wildfire might use? :-P

[littlejohn]

The only way to black out a fire is to get off the truck.

Unless of course there's nothing left to turn, move, scratch, itch, or trip over. Picture a bit of sandy country, the whispy grass has been burnt to nothing and there's not so much as a cow turd smouldering within 20m of the former fireline, and I reckon you can do if from the crew deck.

However, if there is a chance of a root, stick, vegetation, bug, etc then it most certainly requires proper attention from the rakehoe/boot.