Author Topic: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08  (Read 41425 times)

Offline Zippy

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,540
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« on: September 15, 2008, 10:02:10 AM »
Quote
Vandals cause toxic chemical spill
Article from: The Advertiser

September 15, 2008 09:15am

VANDALS are responsible for a large chemical spill at a wool processing plant in Salisbury.

About 40,000 litres of hydrogen peroxide and sulphuric acid were spilled after a break-in at the Nylex Ave business last night.

Ten Metropolitan Fire Service crews were called to the scene about 7am.

The clean-up process is expected to take some time, but the leak has been contained and there is no danger of chemicals entering the stormwater system.

In Attendance
Salisbury 321, 329
Elizabeth 331, 332
Oakden 302
St Marys 401
DO NORTH car 31
Adelaide 2090
And other various MFS appliances.

Salisbury, Dalkeith, Athelstone, Tea Tree Gully, Burnside CFS

Multiple COQ's.

Offline Alan (Big Al)

  • Forum Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,609
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • CRUMPETS
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2008, 10:12:23 AM »
With the COQ's isn't it a bit odd that the Valley went to Glen Osmond instead of stirling??
Lt. Goolwa CFS

Offline Zippy

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,540
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 10:17:34 AM »
i think that was some good Strategic thinking by the C Shift Comms Officer. Keeping Stirling available for RCR's on the Freeway...and avaliable for the next possible round of COQ's.

Considering that 204, 249, 409, 439 are the only available MFS Rescues. Burnside are already commited to a hazmat, Athelstone id say are already fully committed.  So Stirling would be the next available COQ for RCR.

Once ya use up Stirling....then ya gonna get into the Morphett Vale, Seaford, Balhannah, Virginia, Nuriootpa, even Aldinga Beach...
« Last Edit: September 15, 2008, 10:23:13 AM by Zippy »

Offline Alan (Big Al)

  • Forum Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,609
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • CRUMPETS
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2008, 10:18:50 AM »
Fair nuff
Lt. Goolwa CFS

Darren

  • Guest
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2008, 10:20:38 AM »
Yeah strategic move, already used enough rescues, and with this weather and the freeway reputation the descision was made in consultation with region 1.

Offline bittenyakka

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,342
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2008, 01:58:16 PM »
We picked their thinking zippy.

What is the next step in this type of call about getting CFS crews out of MFS stations? or are more cfs members just rotated through.

Offline bajdas

  • Forum Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,745
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2008, 02:13:17 PM »
We picked their thinking zippy.

What is the next step in this type of call about getting CFS crews out of MFS stations? or are more cfs members just rotated through.

I am not sure of crew rotation on COQ stations, but they are changing crew at the incident site.

11:59:11 15-09-08 ONKA> TO ONKA HAZMAT OPERATORS> I NEED TWO HAZMAT OPS TO TAKE BAL 34P TO GO TO SALISBURY TODAY 15.9.08 LEAVING BAL STATION AT 1300HRS FOR SHIFT TILL APPROX 9PM RETURN TO BAL> IF AVAIL PLEASE RING GREG J ON 8388 4481 THANKS CFS Onkaparinga Group Info

Then stop call on change-over for some crews, it would seem.

13:34:13 15-09-08 EDEN HAS A STOP CALL FOR HASMAT - EDEN CAPTAIN CFS Eden Hills Info

13:34:54 15-09-08 SALISBURY RELIEF CREW NOT REQUIRED THANKYOU TO ALL CREW WHO MADE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE FROM SALISBURY STATION CFS Salisbury Info
« Last Edit: September 15, 2008, 02:35:48 PM by bajdas »
Andrew Macmichael
lives at Pt Noarlunga South.

My personal opinion only.

Offline bajdas

  • Forum Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,745
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2008, 02:16:38 PM »
08:46:15 15-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC055 15/09/08 08:45,RESPOND PROVIDE SHELTER,1506 MAIN NORTH RD,SALISBURY SOUTH MAP 71 G 14,LARGE INFLATABLE SHELTER GH MICHELL CONT,ACT COMCEN <phone number>,NAD020 SES Edinburgh Response

SES also attending to provide shelter... In this wind I am not sure if they would use the inflatable tent   :-D
Andrew Macmichael
lives at Pt Noarlunga South.

My personal opinion only.

Offline bajdas

  • Forum Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,745
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2008, 02:24:54 PM »
From:- http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24346798-5006301,00.html

Spill forces evacuation

Daniel Wills, AAP
September 15, 2008 01:20pm

FEARS a Salisbury North wool processing plant could explode from a toxic mix of chemicals and methane gas have eased.

SA Police have closed the area near GH Michel and Sons earlier today, saying there was a ''real and immediate danger to life''.

They told a media conference a short time ago that they now believed the situation was under control but would require local business owners to stay away from the area until 12.30pm tomorrow.

Police earlier enforced an air exclusion zone, with no aircraft permitted within 1km, forcing pilots to find alternative landing sites than Parafield Airport, which is adjacent to the GH Michel plant.

Thousands of litres of hydrogen peroxide, sulphuric acid and possibly other chemicals had spilled within the plant, the Metropolitan Fire Service (MFS) said. Methane gas also had been detected,

Michell Pty Ltd said its Salisbury premises - one of the largest wool processing factories in the southern hemisphere - were broken into over the weekend.

"Vandals broke into the factory premises, opening and smashing valves on a number of chemical tanks," the company said in a statement.

"At this stage it appears that the damage is contained on a site at the factory."

About 60 staff returning to work after a seasonal break were evacuated this morning after the damage was discovered at 6am.

Michell Pty Ltd managing director Peter Michell described the incident as wilful damage.

"This is a very stupid act by a very stupid person,'' he said.

"A jemmy bar can do a lot of damage.''

George Henry Michell founded the business in 1870, setting up a wool scouring operation in the small South Australian township of Undalya.

The business grew rapidly and in 1896 was moved to Hindmarsh in Adelaide. The company relocated to the current Salisbury location, about 20km north of Adelaide, in the late 1960s.

The company branched into industries beyond wool processing and exporting, including banking, farming, commodity trading and property development.

In June 2004, Peter Michell and his brother David took control of the wool division and began trading as an independent venture under the name Michell Pty Ltd.
Andrew Macmichael
lives at Pt Noarlunga South.

My personal opinion only.

Offline Hicksflat14

  • Forum Senior Firefighter
  • ***
  • Posts: 78
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2008, 02:32:08 PM »
Considering that 204, 249, 409, 439 are the only available MFS Rescues. Burnside are already commited to a hazmat, Athelstone id say are already fully committed.  So Stirling would be the next available COQ for RCR.

Once ya use up Stirling....then ya gonna get into the Morphett Vale, Seaford, Balhannah, Virginia, Nuriootpa, even Aldinga Beach...

Going on Stirling's recent performances they are used up already. Its time for the white trucks to become red... and Morphett Vale? Do they even carry RIV gear? I don't think MFS recognise RIV as making you an RCR brigade so Seafords out. PS you forgot that Blackwood would be the next closest after Stirling for RCR coverage and Meadows would be closer than Aldinga Beach although yes this would leave large holes in rcr coverage in many groups.

Offline bajdas

  • Forum Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,745
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2008, 02:34:16 PM »
13:31:45 15-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC089 15/09/08 13:31,RESPOND ALARM 10/081,SGIC,211 VICTORIA SQU,ADELAIDE MAP 3 P 9 TG182,FIP FIRE CONTROL ROOM LHS ENTRY,,ADL205 ADL203 HPPY00 CFS Happy Valley Response

CFS & MFS response to a city building....not one you see everyday.
Andrew Macmichael
lives at Pt Noarlunga South.

My personal opinion only.

Offline CFS_Firey

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,250
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2008, 02:44:38 PM »
Yeah strategic move, already used enough rescues, and with this weather and the freeway reputation the descision was made in consultation with region 1.

Isn't that why Stirling has a stand alone rescue appliance? :P

I think it's good strategy to leave Stirling unaffected though - particularly with the potential for the job to be going for quite some time.

Going on Stirling's recent performances they are used up already. Its time for the white trucks to become red... and Morphett Vale? Do they even carry RIV gear? I don't think MFS recognise RIV as making you an RCR brigade so Seafords out. PS you forgot that Blackwood would be the next closest after Stirling for RCR coverage and Meadows would be closer than Aldinga Beach although yes this would leave large holes in rcr coverage in many groups.

I'm note sure why Zippy chose those particular brigades, but it certainly wasn't for rescue...

Darren

  • Guest
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2008, 03:20:10 PM »
Yeah need pump rescue's, which you don't have at Stirling.

Anyway, job is done, stations were covered.

Offline CFS_Firey

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,250
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2008, 03:28:15 PM »
Yeah need pump rescue's, which you don't have at Stirling.

Anyway, job is done, stations were covered.

Doesn't need to be a Pump Rescue, just needs to have a combi tool. (AFAIK anyway).

I notice some of the CFS COQ appliances are returning now... Is the job wrapping up, or are they being relieved?
« Last Edit: September 15, 2008, 03:31:32 PM by CFS_Firey »

Darren

  • Guest
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2008, 03:36:50 PM »
Sorry, has to have full compliment of tools to be classed as a pump rescue, otherwise you are just a pumper.


Offline 6739264

  • Forum Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,806
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • RETARD RETARD RETARD Need I say more?
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2008, 03:39:43 PM »
Bring back the days of 1st/2nd/Heavy Rescue!
To think they employed me as a drooling retard...

Offline bittenyakka

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,342
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2008, 04:04:38 PM »
huh?

you need a rescue pump for what? Not COQ as happy valley and belair are not rescue pumps.

Darren

  • Guest
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2008, 04:53:50 PM »
Doesn't matter, to hard to explain.

rescue5271

  • Guest
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2008, 04:58:36 PM »
Time some RCR gear was put on happy pumper..... Eden hills has RCR gear...

Offline OMGWTF

  • Forum Lieutenant
  • ****
  • Posts: 283
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2008, 08:00:07 AM »
Eden have RIG, not full RCR stowage.

RCR/RIG is not a requirement for COQ, i think Darren was implying that for the appliances to be considered a rescue in MFS area they would need the full stowage as per a 9. At the end of the day we [CFS] dont supply trucks with RCR equipment as the standard for COQ anyway, would leave to many areas without coverage.

Offline TillerMan

  • Forum Lieutenant
  • ****
  • Posts: 396
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2008, 03:13:29 PM »
Probably another good reason why the equipment and appliances should be looked at from a state point of veiw rather than a brigades specific area.... Eg Belair should probably have a pumper again due to their close proximity to the city and the easily stretched resources of the MFS.

Offline Alan (Big Al)

  • Forum Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,609
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • CRUMPETS
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2008, 04:29:50 PM »
Why not use eden hills instead of belair??
Lt. Goolwa CFS

Offline Cameron Yelland

  • Forum Lieutenant
  • ****
  • Posts: 425
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2008, 04:38:31 PM »
Probably another good reason why the equipment and appliances should be looked at from a state point of veiw rather than a brigades specific area.... Eg Belair should probably have a pumper again due to their close proximity to the city and the easily stretched resources of the MFS.

Sweet ill put my order in for a pumper and jet right now.

nah seriously makes sense.  Bout time we started working together with the other services then against them but obviously within reason.
Compton CFS Brigade
Captain
(Formally Comp00)

Offline 6739264

  • Forum Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,806
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • RETARD RETARD RETARD Need I say more?
    • View Profile
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2008, 06:37:14 PM »
Eden have RIG, not full RCR stowage.

RCR/RIG...

So what DO we have in CFS? RIV/RIK/RIG???
To think they employed me as a drooling retard...

rescue5271

  • Guest
Re: 3rd alarm Hazmat, Salisbury 15/09/08
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2008, 08:32:44 PM »
Eden hills should have done a COQ before belair,but what would I know a pumper or a part time pumper in a fully URBAN area???

 

anything