Carey Gully Rd

[Zippy]

11:37:58 12-08-08 S81 Cat2 Carey Gully Rd, Carey Gully 134 P16 POLICE REQUIRED

11:38:41 12-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 12/08/08 11:37,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CAREY GULLY RD,CAREY GULLY MAP 145 P 3 TG126,INTERSECTION WITH FOX CREEK RD. NO ENTRA,PMENTS. BLOCKING ROAD. 2 CARS,STRL19 CARY00 CFS Stirling Response

11:49:26 12-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 12/08/08 11:48,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,FOX CREEK RD,CUDLEE CREEK MAP 112 C 7 TG126,CORNER WITH CROFT ROAD. 2 CARS. NO ENTRA,PMENTS. FROM SAPOL. BLOCKING ROAD,LOBE19 CUDL00 CFS Lobethal Response

Fox Creek Road doesnt even go near Carey Gully!...the two locations are very far apart...!   Low priority job, but if this was a time critical incident...

So i believe only SAPOL comcen got the correct information.

[Pipster]

11:37:58 12-08-08 S81 Cat2 Carey Gully Rd, Carey Gully 134 P16 POLICE REQUIRED

11:38:41 12-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 12/08/08 11:37,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CAREY GULLY RD,CAREY GULLY MAP 145 P 3 TG126,INTERSECTION WITH FOX CREEK RD. NO ENTRA,PMENTS. BLOCKING ROAD. 2 CARS,STRL19 CARY00 CFS Stirling Response

11:49:26 12-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 12/08/08 11:48,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,FOX CREEK RD,CUDLEE CREEK MAP 112 C 7 TG126,CORNER WITH CROFT ROAD. 2 CARS. NO ENTRA,PMENTS. FROM SAPOL. BLOCKING ROAD,LOBE19 CUDL00 CFS Lobethal Response

Fox Creek Road doesnt even go near Carey Gully!...the two locations are very far apart...!   Low priority job, but if this was a time critical incident...

So i believe only SAPOL comcen got the correct information.

And it wasn't even at Fox Creek Rd & Croft Rd either.....turned out to be Cudlee Creek Rd & Fox Creek Rd....

And I don't think there is a "Carey Gully Rd" at Carey Gully either....

Pip

[uniden]

At the end of the day though you can only go by the information the caller gives you...

[Footy]

And calling up 000 can be a pretty daunting thing,
someone might get off the phone and go crap, thats not what i meant, and you dont want to ring back cos they are bus ppl...

[Zippy]

Carey Gully road is in the area of Mt Geogre i believe.  Pretty much looked at google maps when that call went through and screwed my face up, simply knew that fox creek road is either lenswood, lobethal or cudlee creek.

[Pipster]

According to the UBD, there is no "Carey Gully Rd" at Carey Gully...and I haven't heard the locals talk about Carey Gully Rd either!!!

Listening to the ambos, they seemed to be getting quite differing versions of the locations....eventually someone gave the the correct location!!

Luckily, there appeared to be no serious injuries at this crash.

Pip

[bittenyakka]

There is an "old Carey gully road" but that is in Stirling east/mount gorge.

[pumprescue]

All I can say is I can't wait until CAD comes in with the automatic mapping function when you put a street in, then the operator can say "errrrm, you sure those roads intersect?"

[SA Firey]

As soon as I heard that on the scanner I said to myself ill bet its Cudlee Creek Rd and I was right.

Carey Gully Rd is usually referred to as Bridgewater Carey Gully Rd which is what SAPOL used to give us for accident directions.

It is also referred to as that on Google Earth 

[bittenyakka]

except that is actauly called gully road.

[SA Firey]

except that is actauly called gully road.

Negative Bridgewater-Carey Gully Rd UBD Map 146 E13

[jaff]

There is according to the UBD and the locaaaaaals

(1) the Bridgewater to Carey Gully road - that runs between Bridgewater and Rangeveiw drive at Carey Gully
(2) the Old Carey Gully road - that runs from the old Mt Barker road(Stirling end) to the intersection of Gully road ( by Woodhouse) at that point the Old Carey Gully road changes name and becomes Rangeview drive that continues to Greenhill road at Carey Gully.
(3) Gully road runs from Greenhill road to the intersection of Old Carey Gully road and Rangeview drive (by Woodhouse)
Hopefully that clears it up .
The pager messages on that day certainly looked like a ballsup, even on the second page they had the 126 talkgroup down clearly wrong, would a call to an alerts phone by Adelaide Fire have shortened the correct response time!

[Zippy]

it puts it down to this...no one single adelaide fire operator thinks like the next....You tell one the correct information, the next one will still be clueless....

[bittenyakka]

yeah that's right jaff

And Jeff the rode on google earth that is "caery gully road" is actauly gully road.

[SA Firey]

yeah that's right jaff

And Jeff the road on google earth that is "carey gully road" is actually gully road.

Oh really, so the UBD and Google Earth info is wrong is it, and that's why the signs say Bridgewater-Carey Gully Rd...go for a drive in your LOCAL area and have a look

[6739264]

And Jeff the rode on google earth that is "caery gully road" is actauly gully road.

Whats a 'rode' ?

[CFS_Firey]

it puts it down to this...no one single adelaide fire operator thinks like the next....You tell one the correct information, the next one will still be clueless....

So if you were working at Adelaide fire, you'd know every road in the state and what roads intersect it in which suburbs?

[6739264]

it puts it down to this...no one single adelaide fire operator thinks like the next....You tell one the correct information, the next one will still be clueless....

So if you were working at Adelaide fire, you'd know every road in the state and what roads intersect it in which suburbs?

Its called dedication.

Some of us have it, you obviously don't.

[Pipster]

Does Adelaide Fire and Ambo Comms, have street verification on their CRD systems?

I know SAPol does (well, at least streets in the UBD..) - for 000 and 131444 calls in the country, it normally goes through to the local Police HQ, who might have a bit of an idea about their own area)

Pip

[CFS_Firey]

Pip, I didn't think you could enter a street in BOMS if it didn't exist in the database... (otherwise it comes out as MAP 0 0).  I don't know about any intersection / landmark checking though...

[Zippy]

it puts it down to this...no one single adelaide fire operator thinks like the next....You tell one the correct information, the next one will still be clueless....

Its called dedication.

Some of us have it, you obviously don't.
So if you were working at Adelaide fire, you'd know every road in the state and what roads intersect it in which suburbs?

I was referring to the "Calling the Brigades Alert's" Procedure Mel...and the randomness at how they follow there own procedure.

[6739264]

I was referring to the "Calling the Brigades Alert's" Procedure Mel...and the randomness at how they follow there own procedure.

That is assuming that the brigades that they turnout use alerts.

[rescue5271]

I wounder how the new addressing system is going to work with these problems not only in the city area's but also in the country....

[Zippy]

im led to believe there have been brigades added to alerts since adelaide fire took over last year.

[pumprescue]

Nope, no one has been added to Alerts. They are supposed to ring certain brigades first, but not all of them, again having a system where you have to do one thing for this brigade, one thing for another brigade is frought with danger, how are you supposed to get all the things they all want done right every time. Also the abuse from some of the vols doesn't help.