Eden Hills Type 2 Pumper

[strikeathird]

hmmm well lets not just say things for the sake of posting...

CFS is going to have to upgrade to heaavier trucks, andf more
"urbanised equipment" either that or hand over urban stations. there is no way around it.

Thats obvious.  So was that for the sake of posting
(Don't stir the pot when you don't have too )


To the Eden hills guys/gurls on here... 

Are you aware to date of any photos from the House Fire ?

[corocfs]

because David seems to think urban brigades arent going to be upgraded in his lifetime... so unless hes not p0lanning on sticking around much longer... lol
im pretty sure this is going to HAVE to happen within 10 years.

[Wagon 1]

I don't think it will happen in my lifetime, and I potentially have another 30 years in CFS, unless we get a radical change in the management of CFS, because the people running it now seem to not want to acknowledge the urban risk we face, its all bushfire this and bushfire that. Hello, thats not all we do!! I think the type 2 will be as good as it gets, and they will be few and far between compared to the amount of pumpers we had in the past. Something drastic will have to happen, because they way its going we won't be changing anytime soon. Don't get me wrong, I will continue to fight for change, but I am only one person.

[Steveg]

To the Eden hills guys/gurls on here... 

Are you aware to date of any photos from the House Fire ?

Not yet, but i will keep looking.

[oz fire]

Not to sure if it is the people running it  - the chief was heavily involved in the CFA urban appliance program a number of years ago (when he was a mexican) and look at the CFS fleet - aerials, pumpers, specialist hose lays, rescue tenders etc.

CFS has progressed a long way in the last 10 - 15 years!  It was only 20 years ago that the first 24 style of vehicle came off the line and into use in SA, so we are moving forward - yes there are a few blockages - Arthur Tindal and Arthur Tindal, however there is slowly a move.

The major issue - is what do brigades need - honestly, to cover their patch, their legislative requirements, the area that is their primary response zone!!!!

When you look at that there are a good number of pumpers needed, but then also some of those that are crying we need a pumper would deserve little more than a 24 and that is all they should get, but CFS continues to oil the squeaky wheel at the frustration of the rest of us - so collectively we are our worst enemies

[CFS_Firey]

but CFS continues to oil the squeaky wheel at the frustration of the rest of us - so collectively we are our worst enemies

That seems to be the major problem... If new appliances were being blocked by the government, or local councils, everyone would be up in arms and there would be new pumpers (probably Scanias) everywhere... But, because the sticking point is in the CFS itself, theres nothing much we can do, except complain to each other

[Mike]

but CFS continues to oil the squeaky wheel at the frustration of the rest of us - so collectively we are our worst enemies

That seems to be the major problem... If new appliances were being blocked by the government, or local councils, everyone would be up in arms and there would be new pumpers (probably Scanias) everywhere... But, because the sticking point is in the CFS itself, theres nothing much we can do, except complain to each other

Doesnt being your own worst enemy eventually lead to self destruction?? 

[CFS_Firey]

Doesn't being your own worst enemy eventually lead to self destruction??

apparently so, but the CFS has managed for all these years.... 

[corocfs]

Are you aware to date of any photos from the House Fire ?

as a person that was on-scene, even tho' our truck was turned out 10mins into the call (altho we were available from the start, fulltruck having just cleared a call 4 mins away... wheres the common sense??? LOL) i'd have to say, no... unless someone was being very sneaky, there were no pics, taken... definitely not during the "action period" neway... mabye some mopping up?

[strikeathird]

No worries..

[Steveg]

Alex is right. we have got some amusing pics from after the event, like the 6 drums of "BUDRITE" fertiliser, but nothing of the action.
i guess that is what comes of only having a crew of 6 on board, no-one has the time to take piccies until afterwards. 

Ah well, next time.

[TillerMan]

Steve g, i was wondering if you can tell me the overall length of the type 2 from the very front of the bullbar and how much shorter it would be without the bullbar on??

Cheers.

[OMGWTF]

how did the flaked 38s go with that housefire a few weeks ago?

[Steveg]

TillerMan- sorry, dont have the measurements, but i can try and track them down when i am next at the stystion for you.

OMG-
the flaked hose is Brilliant.
I was the one who got the 38 off the truck at that job, and i was able to grab the branch and run with it almost like a HP line.
the 64 for the hydrant is the same. with a little bot of practise and some forethought it is excellent.

[CyberCitizen]

Good To Hear That The Flaked Hoses Worked A Treat, What Would You Perfer Now That You Have Used Both?

[strikeathird]

I think that both could be used effectively in different situations, and at some jobs you would prefer one over the other, but visa versa at other jobs...  Don't think you could go without either/or... Both would compliment the truck well with their own benefits....

[Wagon 1]

A lot of Americans are putting booster reels back on their trucks for all the run of the mill jobs like bin fires and car fires, lot easier than running hose out, and they still mainly use canvas.

[Steveg]

Good To Hear That The Flaked Hoses Worked A Treat, What Would You Perfer Now That You Have Used Both?

[Steveg]

well, a few months have passed. Everybody has had time to get used to the appliance.
i would say, as far as practicialti goes, it is an allround excellent truck.
there's been a few bugs that we have come across, but nothing that has been cause for concern, or taken more than a bit of effort to resolve.
I believe that there is a few more brigades with these appliances now. does anybody else here have one, and, if so, how are you finding it??

[Alan (Big Al)]

Does the eden appliance have fluro lights running down each side??? I saw this on Barkers type 2 and though it was a great idea!!

[CFS_Firey]

Does the eden appliance have fluro lights running down each side??? I saw this on Barkers type 2 and though it was a great idea!!

HAHAHAAHA!!! Do they flash in time with the radio?

[Steveg]

yep.
theres an unbroken line of fluro lights down the sides, and a single light across the back.each side is controlled independently, so you can be working on the kerb side, and switch off the road side if you wanted.

[Alan (Big Al)]

yep.
theres an unbroken line of fluro lights down the sides, and a single light across the back.each side is controlled independently, so you can be working on the kerb side, and switch off the road side if you wanted.

Sweeeet....  All we'll need soon is a disco ball just under the light tower and we won't need anymore refinement to the truck 

[Sam]

Hi There,

We have a type two. It is an excellent truck at this stage. It has some limits but they are beyond our reach at the moment. Some of the wiring can be a problem, we have had trouble with one of the locker sensors. When driving along the whole cab lights up like christmas time as the sensor thinks the locke is open.

It has a good amount of room to fit everything, rescue takes up basically all the drivers side, hoses BA and other confined space on the other.

Overall it is an excellent appliance.

Sam

[rescue5271]

Sam you have had that pumper for sometime now have you not had that problem fixed with the door??? If not why not and did ya let skilled know so that they can fix it?