State CFS Talkgroups etc

[Zippy]

If you want to page out a response. Call MFS Comms. Keep it in the stations Speed-dials. Simple.

[mack]

If we go to one talk group thenext step from what was said to me,is that groups will not be able to page from the group base when CAD comes on line.So in other words where a group base has a PC and they can now send out a pager message to the brigade this will be removed and all paging will have to go via coms in adelaide....

Isn't that a good thing? With all response paging coming from a single source?

yes, and it keeps response paging in the correct form...
but it will put even more traffic onto the GRN talkgroups requesting pager messages... its all well and good to say phone adelaide fire, but you know there are brigades that wont.

[Darius]

If you are just talking about response paging Bill then yes that is the plan (although it is not related to the "one talkgroup" proposal or the CRD move to MFS, but rather it is connected with SACAD).

Another reason to those already mentioned is for the inclusion of incident numbers in the page (either reusing the existing number, which the group base could do, or generating a new incident number, which a group base could not do).  Also in the group base you won't have the response maps that SACAD will so you won't necessarily respond the right next brigade.

Of course a group base (or anyone) cannot be stopped (technically) from doing it themselves but there are valid reasons why not to - assuming more confidence can be built up in the timeliness of Adelaide Fire sending out the pages after they are requested.

[littlejohn]

Isn't that a good thing? With all response paging coming from a single source?

If that one source is capable of handling the traffic, then yes.

However CFS SOCC had trouble on occasion and as such was seen (at least down here) as not reliable when things got busy.

If the paging facility was removed from group bases now, speed-dials included, there would be a lot of people worried about the ability to getting trucks moving over the fire season, or the time it took to do so anyway.

[bittenyakka]

I think he means for messages that aren't response pages.

[Zippy]

you do have the option of:  example:

OAKB: MANUAL TURNOUT RESPOND STATION CFSRES...at the press of a button.  but as soon as you press it, let adelaide fire know of the incident, to properly get it put into the system.

As for Info messages, three good methods:  Link Email, Link Website, Airsource.

[bajdas]

Just remember whatever comes of it the MFS will eventually have the final say. Go figure.

I still 'have a bet' that SACAD operators & centre will NOT be under MFS control. Personally I think it will be transitioned to SAFECOM control & management.

Maybe the new SAWater HQ building on Victoria Square would be a good location, or outside of the CBD if they can access the existing IT fibre-loop.

I think the MFS Comcen will be for control of the MFS incidents and resources, not answering 000 telephones.

** My personal thoughts & opinions. ***

[6739264]

Just remember whatever comes of it the MFS will eventually have the final say. Go figure.

I still 'have a bet' that SACAD operators & centre will NOT be under MFS control. Personally I think it will be transitioned to SAFECOM control & management.

Maybe the new SAWater HQ building on Victoria Square would be a good location, or outside of the CBD if they can access the existing IT fibre-loop.

I think the MFS Comcen will be for control of the MFS incidents and resources, not answering 000 telephones.

** My personal thoughts & opinions. ***

No need to 'have a bet' about the current 'SAFECOM' Commcen. SAFMS just kicked up a scheiße because its in their building.

[backburn]

you do have the option of:  example:

OAKB: MANUAL TURNOUT RESPOND STATION CFSRES...at the press of a button.  but as soon as you press it, let adelaide fire know of the incident, to properly get it put into the system.

As for Info messages, three good methods:  Link Email, Link Website, Airsource.

Only if your Alpha Decoder box is working. Our Group will not allow us to get them fixed we have 5 out of the whole group not working

[RescueHazmat]

WHy aren't you allowed to get them fixed?

[Zippy]

i dont think they are broken,   probably just not installed properly....and maybe need to "unpress" the buttons as they may be contacting there fore random stop calls etc may be sent.

[RescueHazmat]

Considering it is the States equipment, not your individual groups, I don't see why they wouldn't be getting fixed.

[backburn]

Have had them sent away for repairs they sent them back they worked for a few weeks now they have slowly stoped working again all with different problems

[rescue5271]

I know this is off topic but from what is being said down here all group bases will not be about to do any paging(response or other ) from the group base once CRD comes on line.We will also lose our manual call out push buttons that are  at the group base so as we can turn out brigade's with in the group......As for contacting MFS of a job well i did that sunday and they did not care or by the sound of it want to know as it was 0830 in the morning.........Please bring in a independent CRD system like Victoria......

[RescueHazmat]

B/S they didnt care Blinky!

Any more takers on bagging the comcen? 


Backup your statement with fact, and actually say what you accuse them of doing, instead of just saying they "didn't want to know about it"... Thats just slander at its ripe old best!

[rescue5271]

I dont need to back up my statement there where enough people(DGO) and others around when I contacted Adelaide fire via radio to say that we where turning out to a fixed alarm.may be the operator at the other end was having a bad day who knows.....

[CFS_Firey]

So you told Adelaide Fire you were mobile and they said "We don't care"?

[rescue5271]

It was not that they did not care it was the tone in his voice,scheiße happens

[Zippy]

just hope you have the nice ladies voice often heard on 124 as Adelaide Fire...hehe...apparently shes been known to have the best comm's operator voice....and shes one of the CFS comms op's.

[RescueHazmat]

It was not that they did not care it was the tone in his voice,filtered happens

Not what you said earlier..

As for contacting MFS of a job well i did that sunday and they did not care or by the sound of it want to know as it was 0830 in the morning

[6739264]

God forbid a Comms operator be tired, or maybe having to stayback untill a recall comes in for their shift.

Do you really expect an "OH WOW AWESOME COOL" response everytime you talk to them?

[CFS_Firey]

God forbid a Comms operator be tired, or maybe having to stayback untill a recall comes in for their shift.

Do you really expect an "OH WOW AWESOME COOL" response everytime you talk to them?

When State Headquarters were doing resource tracking, they were never grumpy. Ever.

[Zippy]

we all miss those days eyy 

[CFS_Firey]

we all miss those days eyy 

I think you may have missed my sarcasm with that comment, but being an Internet forum, I forgive you!

[6739264]

I still enjoyed the old days of Region 1 HQ doing resource tracking. THEY were fun times.

Mind you, they were good times with some of our beloved ex-SOCC staff... What saucy voices some of them had, especially that Darren...