cfs volunteers

[samfs]

i think cfs members should be on some sort of retainer.as most cfs members go above and beyond there duty i have worked with cfs many times and all of which are very professional.to ALL cfs members well done thanks for the great help

                               

[uniden]

No cause the government cant afford it and volunteers by definition do not get paid...

[RescueHazmat]

i think cfs members should be on some sort of retainer.as most cfs members go above and beyond there duty i have worked with cfs many times and all of which are very professional.to ALL cfs members well done thanks for the great help

                              

I disagree, I don't beileve their should be a retainer.

Hasn't needed to be in the last 70 years, and I don't think their needs to be now.

[CFS_Firey]

Brigades weren't doing 300 calls a year for the past 70 years though.  I don't think all volunteers should be paid, but the busy urban brigades should get compensation... 

[bittenyakka]

It is a tough one but i can see reasons for really busy brigades to get compensation however i have no clue how to arrange this.

[6739264]

No cause the government cant afford it and volunteers by definition do not get paid...

You may want to note that in many fire services, 'Volunteer' and Retained Staff are one and the same.

[uniden]

No cause the government cant afford it and volunteers by definition do not get paid...

You may want to note that in many fire services, 'Volunteer' and Retained Staff are one and the same.

Not in Australia.
Vic-CFA volunteers and Permananent staff.
NSWFB-Retained Firefighters, Permanent staff
NSWRFS-Volunteers
Qld-Retained Firefighters, Permanent Staff and volunteers.
SAMFS-Retained Firefighters and Permanent staff.
SACFS-volunteer firefighters.

[Pipster]

New funding arrangements for Region 1, (and I think other regions), brought in a new way of handling the funding...and it included members being able to claim for their phone calls, travel etc..... so it aims to cover members costs, so they don't have to pay to do the work, as well as giving up their time...

Pip

[6739264]

No cause the government cant afford it and volunteers by definition do not get paid...

You may want to note that in many fire services, 'Volunteer' and Retained Staff are one and the same.

Not in Australia.
Vic-CFA volunteers and Permananent staff.
NSWFB-Retained Firefighters, Permanent staff
NSWRFS-Volunteers
Qld-Retained Firefighters, Permanent Staff and volunteers.
SAMFS-Retained Firefighters and Permanent staff.
SACFS-volunteer firefighters.

We must be in a different 'Australia' to each other then...

[CFS_Firey]

No cause the government cant afford it and volunteers by definition do not get paid...

You may want to note that in many fire services, 'Volunteer' and Retained Staff are one and the same.

Not in Australia.
Vic-CFA volunteers and Permananent staff.
NSWFB-Retained Firefighters, Permanent staff
NSWRFS-Volunteers
Qld-Retained Firefighters, Permanent Staff and volunteers.
SAMFS-Retained Firefighters and Permanent staff.
SACFS-volunteer firefighters.

We must be in a different 'Australia' to each other then...

This point isn't worth arguing - CFS fire fighters that get paid wouldn't be called volunteers in the first place...

[uniden]

This topic has been done to death in previous posts. Probably better off to put it to bed.

[SA Firey]

We must be in a different 'Australia' to each other then...


But maaatttte this is the lucky country

[rescue5271]

I did not join the fire service to get paid rather to help my local community and I am affraid to say this but some Volunteers have lost the value of community service and are now wanting to get paid for a service which is FREE. If anything I would like to see the goverment give tax breaks to companys that let members attend emergency call outs during working hours.. There has been a push in Victoria by the UFU for cfa to have retain fire stations but the VFBA in that state and its members have rejected it....If you want to get paid well go join the paid service,Being a Volunteer is just that you volunteer your time when you can and i think you will find that 95% of CFS volunteers are happy doing it that way.

[mack]

No cause the government cant afford it and volunteers by definition do not get paid...

You may want to note that in many fire services, 'Volunteer' and Retained Staff are one and the same.

Not in Australia.
Vic-CFA volunteers and Permananent staff.
NSWFB-Retained Firefighters, Permanent staff
NSWRFS-Volunteers
Qld-Retained Firefighters, Permanent Staff and volunteers.
SAMFS-Retained Firefighters and Permanent staff.
SACFS-volunteer firefighters.

We must be in a different 'Australia' to each other then...

you cannot be both 'vollunteer' and on a retainer.... by definition it is impossible.

[24pumper]

i think you will find that 95% of CFS volunteers are happy doing it that way.

Yet the other 5% of vols arew the ones doing 90% of the calls and work!

[CFS_Firey]

i think you will find that 95% of CFS volunteers are happy doing it that way.

Yet the other 5% of vols arew the ones doing 90% of the calls and work!

Good call!

rescue5271: When firefighters get paid, they're not volunteers anymore, so the argument that they shouldn't get paid because they're volunteers is void.  (As I said before).

[Zippy]

how about a 1% decrease in income tax 

[bittenyakka]

It volunteers get paid then they are employed staff. now this brings in heaps of other issues like you have to publicly advertise the job, cant discriminate etc etc. So you cant just pay those members of the brigade you have to employ them.

[mack]

i think you will find that 95% of CFS volunteers are happy doing it that way.
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[6739264]

I was just suggesting that historically, many paid services are made up of both 'volunteers' and permanent staff.

[rescue5271]

May be its time that CFS was allowed to have paid staff aswell as  volunteers in the one station both doing the same job in some of the city urban area's. I as a Volunteer would not want to be paid and I am sure you will find that alot of brigade's outside of region one would not want to be paid but would rather have better equipment(appliances/pagers/radios)...... Can this be done yes it can....

[safireservice]

No cause the government cant afford it and volunteers by definition do not get paid...

What makes you think the government cant afford it?

[uniden]

May be its time that CFS was allowed to have paid staff aswell as  volunteers in the one station both doing the same job in some of the city urban area's. I as a Volunteer would not want to be paid and I am sure you will find that alot of brigade's outside of region one would not want to be paid but would rather have better equipment(appliances/pagers/radios)...... Can this be done yes it can....

Not when the Emergency Services minister stated that there would be no paid CFS volunteers. If paid firefighters are required then they would be MFS.

No cause the government cant afford it and volunteers by definition do not get paid...

What makes you think the government cant afford it?

Wel didnt the CFS budget get cutback this year??

[safireservice]

Not when the Emergency Services minister stated that there would be no paid CFS volunteers. If paid firefighters are required then they would be MFS.

The minister who might not be the minister for much longer?

[safireservice]

Wel didnt the CFS budget get cutback this year??

Just because the CFS budget got cut this year doesnt mean the government hasnt got any money.