Groups self responding to SES jobs

[Zippy]

In comparison, I understand that not all CFS members are CABA trained yet they are all firefighters. So I would expect at a large structural fire some CFS volunteers should be saying, sorry cannot enter because I am not trained & thus adding a risk to the rest of the crew. That person I hope would be given another job to do outside of the building within their skill set

Everyone is trained in external firefighting of structures in Level 1 (simply put: preventing injury, while pouring wet stuff ;)).

CABA is optional and generally 8-14 operators per brigade is the SFEC minimum.

As for "im not trained, thus adding risk to the rest of the crew"...Shouldnt be entering a building with out Two teams of Two BA operators with a ECO set up. And with the matter of entering a building...any Black or Blue smoke and blackened windows...seriously consider,  whoeva is in there is already dead.....

[mack]

Badjas - your quite right mate. Differnat levels of training in all services and yet we all bear the same title in the organisations..

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And with the matter of entering a building...any Black or Blue smoke and blackened windows...seriously consider,  whoeva is in there is already dead.....

Wow, sounds like you're never ever going to enter a building with that attitude. You might want to go back and re-read Suppress Urban Fire and CFB :)

[Zippy]

please read carefully mate...."seriously consider"....is it viable to put firefighters at risk to a visual lost cause....also talking in the matter of fully involved structures.  PBI gold and training cant shield you from everything basically what im saying.   (ive begun to quote my LT-1 partially)

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on a appropriate tangent. i refer to my firefighters at risk wording. 

for everyone,

I hope this is the "common sense" in terms of priorites at a incident.

1. the firefighters, rescuer's
2. the public
3. the property
4. the environment