Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging

[Alan (Big Al)]

So is there any timeframe on intercad coming online? wasn't it meant to be up and running months ago?

[CFS_Firey]

10:20:22    MFS: *CFSRES INC0020 11/12/12 10:20 RESPOND HEAVY RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, STURT HWY/VASEY RD WAIKERIE,MAP:C/241 54,TG 205, ==CONFIRMED ENTRAPMENT, SAPOL CONDUCTING CPR, CAR VS TRUCK, SAAS RESCUE ENROUTE :WAIKPUMP WAIK RES H :

Seriously this problem is continuing to happen often, whether the call was first taken by SAAS or SAPol a 15 minute delay calling a rescue resource is completely unacceptable in these times, when will something be done regarding this??

Also, who are SAAS Rescue? or do they mean SOT?

[crossy]

Probably rescue 51/52 helicopters

[SA Firey]

To clarify it was a Medstar Retrieval Team with an SOT Member onboard in Rescue 51.Two elderly patients transported to RAH after an extensive extrication time, with the car virtually encapsulating the driver.

Both in stable condition.

[CFS_fire32]

See this happen quite often... Initial response type is Minor Cleanup, then quickly changed to RCR. Why?

16:49:52 15-12-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0075 15/12/12 16:49 RESPOND MINOR CLEANUP, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SHEPHERDS HILL RD EDEN HILLS,MAP:ADL 153 Q 4,TG 146, == 5 CAR MVA, NIL ENTRAP, NEAR STURT RD INTERSECT :EDNHPUMP H : - CFS Eden Hills Response

16:50:17 15-12-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0075 15/12/12 16:50 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SHEPHERDS HILL RD EDEN HILLS,MAP:ADL 153 Q 4,TG 146, == 5 CAR MVA, NIL ENTRAP, NEAR STURT RD INTERSECT :BKWD24 RC EDNHPUMP H : - CFS Blackwood Response

[Alan (Big Al)]

probably an on the ball officer requesting an upgrade of an incident, lost count of how many nil entrap accidents we have been called to that have required "cutting".
Could also be new information come in causing the change in job classification.

[CFS_Firey]

See this happen quite often... Initial response type is Minor Cleanup, then quickly changed to RCR. Why?

I believe CFS SOP is that a rescue resource will be responded to any vehicle accident, until nil entrapment is confirmed by an emergency service on scene.  This was part of the RCR resource directory but now that's been replaced by SACAD I'm not sure where these policies come from.

MFS don't have the "rescue to every job" policy, so they have a 'minor cleanup' response type, but they're not supposed to use this for CFS jobs.

[Alan (Big Al)]

i know within our group a rescue resource will not take a stop if there are people still in the vehicles even if they are stated to be not trapped

[Raven]

I believe CFS SOP is that a rescue resource will be responded to any vehicle accident, until nil entrapment is confirmed by an emergency service on scene.  This was part of the RCR resource directory but now that's been replaced by SACAD I'm not sure where these policies come from.

MFS don't have the "rescue to every job" policy, so they have a 'minor cleanup' response type, but they're not supposed to use this for CFS jobs.

I've heard the same thing, we got called to a Minor Clean up a few months ago, which immediately got updated to RCR, which got a rescue appliance sent as well. Though when we (Both us and the Rescue) arrived, the Ambo's were just leaving with the sole occupant, and SAPOL had already set up. So I'd think the 'nil entrapment' call might have to come from us/RCR person. Not sure though.

[Alex]

Not a CFS SOP thing, purely to do with RCRD and the metro MFS boundary being used as the border for its policy.


All jobs outside of metro MFS have to be sent as an RCR, every now and then an operator inadvertently sends a minor cleanup for an MVA and so they are quickly upgraded to rectify it.

There is still much confusion as to what the responses across all of SA should be for road accidents, especially since CAD came online. The RCR Comittee does not exist any longer, but the reasons the RCRD was created are still valid. It will be interesting to see what evolves.

[CFS_fire32]

All jobs outside of metro MFS have to be sent as an RCR, every now and then an operator inadvertently sends a minor cleanup for an MVA and so they are quickly upgraded to rectify it.

Makes sense, I thought that was probably the reason.

Thanks all.

[fire8029]

18-12-12 14:19:56 PG40 PR: 2 - BARRIER HWY NACKARA D0535 Disp: 14:17 OTHER EMERG - SAAS Unit Port Augusta

18-12-12 14:25:00 Event cancelled - crew now not required - SAAS Unit Port Augusta

18-12-12 15:13:25 MFS: *CFSRES INC0060 18/12/12 15:13 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, :35 KM STH OF YUNTA ON BARRIER HWY NACKARA,,TG 072, ==CAR VS TREE, DRIVER OK, FLUID ON ROAD :YUNT14 YUNT34 R : - CFS Yunta Response

WOW

[Bagyassfirey]

23-12-12 10:51:45 STATE LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS IS CATASTROPHIC - ALL ON-CALL STAFF ATTEND SCC IMMEDIATELY - SC THOMASON - CFS Headquarters Info

Weather Forecast less than accurate again! How can the Government expect everyday people to "PREPARE ACT SURVIVE" when the forecast Fire Danger Ratings are in accurate...I know weather is hard to predict but i think in this situation media releases should go out advising the community that infact the current FDI rating in your area is .... Some of the current FDI readings in some areas are twice as much as forecast!

[Raven]

I wonder what went wrong here.
This went to Air Desk, looks fine...
07:58:05 27-12-12 NOTIFICATION MFS: *CFSRES INC0034 27/12/12 07:57 RESPOND TREE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, FORBES RD ALDGATE,MAP:ADL 157 L 9,TG 136, ==BASE OF TREE ALIGHT, NEAR INTERSECTION OF EMERY RD :AIRDESK ALDG12 : CFS State Air Desk

This went to Aldgate, ain't look fine...
07:58:08 27-12-12 LARM LEVEL: 1, FORBES RD ALDGATE,MAP:ADL 157 L 9,TG 136, ==BASE OF TREE ALIGHT, NEAR INTERSECTION OF EMERY RD :AIRDESK ALDG12 : CFS Aldgate Response

[Pipster]

Corrupted message on the pager feed - not unusual

Pip

[Bagyassfirey]

28-12-12 15:58:14   MFS: *CFSRES INC0060 28/12/12 15:58 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, PORT RIVER EXP/SALISBURY HWY WINGFIELD,MAP:ADL 93 J 2,TG 182, ==SMALL GRASS FIRE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF INTERSECTION :AIRDESK PAD251 : - MFS Port Adelaide Station

Than


28-12-12 16:00:29   MFS: *CFSRES INC0061 28/12/12 16:00 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MFS - 25 GRAND JUNCTION RD <NULL>,MAP:ADL 92 A11,TG 182, == 321 TO STATION 25 :SAL321 : - MFS Salisbury SAL321


Would Salisbury MFS nearly drive past this incident on way to port Adelaide?

[safireservice]

Not nearly, right past. Seems they have been back to this fire a couple of times now. Unless they are all new fires?

[fire8029]

Thought you would send Oakden or Woodville change of quarters too, would be closer than Salisbury.

[Bagyassfirey]

Crew for OTH A34, Para Tanker and for Strike team vehicle reqd for Clare tomorrow leaving station at 05:30 back early evening. Please SMS David on 0438 807 678. - CFS One Tree Hill Info

Why would you pull a strike team out of a group that is in a TFB tommorow to go to an area not in TFB?

[Alex]

Crew for OTH A34, Para Tanker and for Strike team vehicle reqd for Clare tomorrow leaving station at 05:30 back early evening. Please SMS David on 0438 807 678. - CFS One Tree Hill Info

Why would you pull a strike team out of a group that is in a TFB tommorow to go to an area not in TFB?

Regardless of FDR there is still a huge number of resources in the hills. 5 trucks doesn't  make much difference.

[Bagyassfirey]

Crew for OTH A34, Para Tanker and for Strike team vehicle reqd for Clare tomorrow leaving station at 05:30 back early evening. Please SMS David on 0438 807 678. - CFS One Tree Hill Info

Why would you pull a strike team out of a group that is in a TFB tommorow to go to an area not in TFB?

Regardless of FDR there is still a huge number of resources in the hills. 5 trucks doesn't  make much difference.

Cut them out the fleet than save some $$$$ that could be spent elsewhere 

[kiwifirefighter]

why cut out resources from a fleet when they can be used in different areas by strike teams.  The areas where extra resources are allocated often have a high risk in terms of fire cover due to population, but with a higher population comes a higher number of people who would volunteer, so effectively creating a reserve army of firefighters would can respond to any area of the state and not drastically reducing the number of resources in the affected area

[Bagyassfirey]

why cut out resources from a fleet when they can be used in different areas by strike teams.  The areas where extra resources are allocated often have a high risk in terms of fire cover due to population, but with a higher population comes a higher number of people who would volunteer, so effectively creating a reserve army of firefighters would can respond to any area of the state and not drastically reducing the number of resources in the affected area

Said with tongue firmly in cheek ol mate hence the  at the end!

[safireservice]

Just on the fire at Sevenhill, does anyone have any info re size of the fire? Hasnt seemed to made the paper or the tv news.

[DaveP]

About 31 hectares