Author Topic: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging (Read 4728053 times)

Mike · « **Reply #1825 on:** March 27, 2009, 06:33:22 AM »

Remember the bigger picture.....

Adelaide Fire generally have a good reason for doing these things.

Zippy · « **Reply #1826 on:** March 27, 2009, 08:03:17 AM »

Im not sure what ur aware of in your world Hazmat206, but pretty much ..that adheres to the "non-Metro" Response to RCR's.

for CFS its: 2 Brigades, 1 appliance each. 1 Being Rescue, 1 being Fire.

I thought in the world of MFS...Vehicle Accidents are 1 Fire appliance only, and RCR's are 2 (1 being a rescue).

Similar Graded Elevation of vehicle accidents is done in CFA/MFB.

- 1. Washaway
- 2. Road Rescue
- 3. MVA Fire

I have heard over Vicfire radio, a brigade call for a pager activiation for a manual turnout to a vehicle accident. Vicfire asked them specifically: "Is it a Washaway, Rescue or Fire" "Washaway, only require local brigade pager activation".

Pipster · « **Reply #1827 on:** March 27, 2009, 08:30:28 AM »

Quote from: Hazmat206 on March 26, 2009, 10:36:16 PM

MFS: *CFSRES INC067 26/03/09 20:57,RESPOND RCR,GAWLER-ONE TREE HI RD,GAWLER SOUTH MAP 23 P 15 TG182,NEAR DEAD MANS PASS,GAW359 ELZ339

Intersting how they're sending the rescue/pumper to assist Gawler who already have a rescue/pumper, considering 331 is still in the shed.
I would of thought keeping 339 in it's own area in case of a RCR would be the logical thing

As has been said, look at the bigger picture.

Obviously the pager doesn't tell you everything... however, from the page, it does tell you that the crash has been reported as an RCR - so either an entrapment, or no information available as to if an entrapment exists.

The crash may have been reported as a two car crash.... if there are two cars, both with a possible entrapment, then TWO rescue appliances are required.... and since Gawler have only one truck, it would appear the next closest rescue was also dispatched.

If my summation was correct, then it is quite logical to send two rescues !!!

Pip

big bronto · « **Reply #1828 on:** March 27, 2009, 09:43:47 AM »

Pip is right look at the big picture...Who said that all other MFS appliances were not tied up at other calls. If 339 is the next closest pump then it will back up 359, it is just a bonus them both being pump rescue appliances. You will find as more MFS stations get rescue there will be pump rescues responding with each other, one for the rescue and one for fire cover.

misterteddy · « **Reply #1829 on:** March 30, 2009, 07:09:51 PM »

MFS: *CFSRES INC051 30/03/09 17:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES HWY,STIRLING MAP 145 C 11 TG136,SAPOL REQ SES ATTEND,TRUCK BROKEN DOWN UNDER OLD MT BARKER,ROAD BRIDGE, P1,STRL19 STT020

Anyone know why the SES was requested? Not looking at starting a crapfight....just interested. Traffic control??...if so, others thoughts on this as an appropriate use of them?

Alex · « **Reply #1830 on:** March 30, 2009, 07:14:31 PM »

SAPol sometimes request SES specifically dependant on incident type.

Traffic control, lighting, searches, crime scene preservation are usually a request for SES specifically...

jaff · « **Reply #1831 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:32:07 PM »

Quote from: misterteddy on March 30, 2009, 07:09:51 PM

MFS: *CFSRES INC051 30/03/09 17:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES HWY,STIRLING MAP 145 C 11 TG136,SAPOL REQ SES ATTEND,TRUCK BROKEN DOWN UNDER OLD MT BARKER,ROAD BRIDGE, P1,STRL19 STT020

Anyone know why the SES was requested? Not looking at starting a crapfight....just interested. Traffic control??...if so, others thoughts on this as an appropriate use of them?

Duuuh! They were hungry

Dave O · « **Reply #1832 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:39:59 AM »

Quote from: misterteddy on March 30, 2009, 07:09:51 PM

MFS: *CFSRES INC051 30/03/09 17:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES HWY,STIRLING MAP 145 C 11 TG136,SAPOL REQ SES ATTEND,TRUCK BROKEN DOWN UNDER OLD MT BARKER,ROAD BRIDGE, P1,STRL19 STT020

Anyone know why the SES was requested? Not looking at starting a crapfight....just interested. Traffic control??...if so, others thoughts on this as an appropriate use of them?

SAPOL asked for SES as they thought they could use our equipment to perform a vehicle recovery. Not only broken down but stuck on the wrong side of the gutter. Ended up requesting a heavy towing company.

misterteddy · « **Reply #1833 on:** April 03, 2009, 07:44:09 AM »

Quote from: Dave O on April 03, 2009, 05:39:59 AM

Quote from: misterteddy on March 30, 2009, 07:09:51 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC051 30/03/09 17:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES HWY,STIRLING MAP 145 C 11 TG136,SAPOL REQ SES ATTEND,TRUCK BROKEN DOWN UNDER OLD MT BARKER,ROAD BRIDGE, P1,STRL19 STT020

Anyone know why the SES was requested? Not looking at starting a crapfight....just interested. Traffic control??...if so, others thoughts on this as an appropriate use of them?

SAPOL asked for SES as they thought they could use our equipment to perform a vehicle recovery. Not only broken down but stuck on the wrong side of the gutter. Ended up requesting a heavy towing company.

cheers Dave O....interesting train of SAPOL thought.....not!

6739264 · « **Reply #1834 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:24:53 PM »

Quote from: misterteddy on April 03, 2009, 07:44:09 AM

Quote from: Dave O on April 03, 2009, 05:39:59 AM
Quote from: misterteddy on March 30, 2009, 07:09:51 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC051 30/03/09 17:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES HWY,STIRLING MAP 145 C 11 TG136,SAPOL REQ SES ATTEND,TRUCK BROKEN DOWN UNDER OLD MT BARKER,ROAD BRIDGE, P1,STRL19 STT020

Anyone know why the SES was requested? Not looking at starting a crapfight....just interested. Traffic control??...if so, others thoughts on this as an appropriate use of them?

SAPOL asked for SES as they thought they could use our equipment to perform a vehicle recovery. Not only broken down but stuck on the wrong side of the gutter. Ended up requesting a heavy towing company.

cheers Dave O....interesting train of SAPOL thought.....not!

Not to mention P1...

Life risk at a towing job... TOTALLY

RescueHazmat · « **Reply #1835 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:55:16 PM »

Good call Numbers..

Not so smart.. Particularly if SAPOL were in attendance, and already managing the traffic hazard due to the trucks location..

Bagyassfirey · « **Reply #1836 on:** April 05, 2009, 05:09:44 PM »

MFS: *CFSRES INC042 05/04/09 16:29,RESPOND SHED FIRE,HANSON RD N,WINGFIELD MAP 93 A 5 TG182,B RISK 1ST ALARM CONFIRMED FIRE,FIRE IN RUBBISH INSIDE SHED,WINGFIELD DUMP,ADL205 31 WDV243 ADL206 MFS Stn 20

here we go again

Zippy · « **Reply #1837 on:** April 05, 2009, 06:13:39 PM »

nah...not as bad lol

Bagyassfirey · « **Reply #1838 on:** April 06, 2009, 01:01:42 PM »

MFS: *CFSRES INC025 06/04/09 11:32,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,NANGWARRY CFS,NANGWARRY MAP 0 0 0 TG231,RIDDOCK HWY - CARTER HOLT HARVEY,FIRE IN THE BAG HOUSE,NANG00 CFS Nangwarry Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC025 06/04/09 11:35,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,NANGWARRY CFS,NANGWARRY MAP 0 0 0 TG231,CARTER HOLT HARVEY BAG HOUSE,PENO19 CFS Penola Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC025 06/04/09 11:39,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,NANGWARRY CFS,NANGWARRY MAP 0 0 0 TG231,CARTER HOLT HARVEY - FIRE IN BAG ROOM,KALA00 TRPN00 CFS Kalangadoo Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC025 06/04/09 11:39,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,NANGWARRY CFS,NANGWARRY MAP 0 0 0 TG231,CARTER HOLT HARVEY - FIRE IN BAG ROOM,KALA00 TRPN00 CFS Tarpeena Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC028 06/04/09 12:22,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,JUBILEE HWY EAST E,MT GAMBIER MAP 0 0 0 TG195,CARTER HOLT HARVEY - FIRE IN THE KILN,MTG701 MFS Mt Gambier Response

Coincidence maybe??

Robert-Robert34 · « **Reply #1839 on:** April 06, 2009, 04:04:36 PM »

Nope no coincidence i was at the Nangwarry Mill incident and boy did my turn out gear get really dirty and wet cause there was foam every where

these bag fires are a pain in the neck to put out

Zippy · « **Reply #1840 on:** April 09, 2009, 09:07:18 AM »

06:46:07 09-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC010 09/04/09 06:43,RESPOND RCR,MAIN HIGHWAY, 10MIN NORTH OF PORT WAKEFIELD ,PORT WAKEFIELD MAP 0 0 0 TG104,TRUCK ROLLOVER,PTWK19 SNW029...NANT00

06:47:48 09-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC011 09/04/09 06:47,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 WHITWARTA ST,BALAKLAVA MAP 0 0 0 TG104,MCCARLDES PTY LTD,FERTILISER SHED ON FIRE,BALA00 OWEN00 HMLY19...CLAR28

Busy timez for Wakefield Plains this morning....sure woulda got the Groupies scratching there heads....

Hazmat206 · « **Reply #1841 on:** April 10, 2009, 08:47:14 PM »

MFS: *CFSRES INC048 10/04/09 17:00,RESPOND Assist SAAS,CEDUNA CFS,CEDUNA MAP 0 0 0 TG009,TO DRIVE AN AMBULANCE TO FOWLERS BAY,CEDU19

What next, driving police cars!

Zippy · « **Reply #1842 on:** April 11, 2009, 12:09:06 AM »

You will be surprised what happens outside of the Metro Hazmat206...

This sort of thing has happened legitmately in my response area, close to the metro area...purely so the two ambo's can work collabratively on the paitent (cat1 case).

And FYI, it was a ambo from my brigade who had to drive the ambulance

RescueHazmat · « **Reply #1843 on:** April 11, 2009, 09:11:03 AM »

Quote from: Hazmat206 on April 10, 2009, 08:47:14 PM

MFS: *CFSRES INC048 10/04/09 17:00,RESPOND Assist SAAS,CEDUNA CFS,CEDUNA MAP 0 0 0 TG009,TO DRIVE AN AMBULANCE TO FOWLERS BAY,CEDU19

What next, driving police cars!

Probably had something to do with a rather nasty accident, involving a report of 5 casualties. (Well, all initial reports from the scene were up to 5 cas.)

Zip, think you will find they would have had one Ambulance Officer/Paramedic but needed someone to be able to drive them back while they worked on the Pt in the rear. ~ Or possibly so both could be in the back, this has happend on a number of occasions before, but I would be leaning towards the first idea.

mattb · « **Reply #1844 on:** April 11, 2009, 10:24:50 AM »

I think they were desperate for a third crew out of Ceduna, might have only had one more person available so wanted a CFS member to act as a second (driver).

Nothing wrong with this at all, we did a training session about six months ago with SAAS where we shown all the bits n pieces we needed to know should we have to drive a Merc. In fact when I first started in the CFS I know our guys drove an Ambo at a few jobs, I certainly know MFS have done it in the last 12 months.

dodgy · « **Reply #1845 on:** April 11, 2009, 10:32:56 AM »

I am sure the person in the back of the ambulance wouldn't care what colour the driver wore, just so long as they got to the hospital as quickly as possible.

I was led to believe that we are all there for the good of the community, and to support each other no matter what service we are in!!!

misterteddy · « **Reply #1846 on:** April 11, 2009, 01:42:30 PM »

I've used other services as drivers a couple of times....one CFS and one (shudder) SES. At least he knew how to drive Pri 1 (seeing as they do it all the time...lol), my only issue was trying to stop him at every tree on the way to check if it was in danger of falling

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just kidding boys and girls.......

, both were fine, see not even a crack about a driver who can make u lunch either....it must be a religious holiday

boredmatrix · « **Reply #1847 on:** April 12, 2009, 01:05:53 AM »

i've used the odd firebod to drive to hosp before and went quite well...until the first intersection when the brakes got slammed on - and the ABS was shown to work rather efficiently. Not to mention the IV needle that ended up in the front of the car somewhere.....

But seriously - it is apprciated when you need it. I've also had other experiences with coppers and other firies who've done a better job than some para's i've worked with!

Hazmat206 · « **Reply #1848 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:53:18 PM »

MFS: *CFSRES INC047 13/04/09 15:34,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,26 GUM CR,GAWLER WEST MAP 23 G 11 TG182,GAS HEATER ALIGHT.,GAW359 ELZ339

Would of thought it would of been too warm for that.

chook · « **Reply #1849 on:** April 15, 2009, 08:24:45 PM »

Yep had OJT on the sprinters, & we have had several guys driving the green buses at several incidents. At one job all three buses were driven by "orange people" - no big deal. As was said things are different outside of metro areas.
cheers