Author Topic: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging (Read 4725970 times)

RescueHazmat · « **Reply #1550 on:** January 20, 2009, 11:19:53 AM »

Was just about to copy and paste for you after removing it in the other thread.. hehe.. Nicely done..

Bagyassfirey · « **Reply #1551 on:** January 20, 2009, 11:29:13 AM »

ahh thanks R Hazmat...much appreciated

OMGWTF · « **Reply #1552 on:** January 20, 2009, 12:04:58 PM »

MFS: *CFSRES INC048 20/01/09 13:22,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,95 BELAIR RD,KINGSWOOD MAP 130 K 13 TG182,TORRENS ARMS HOTEL,ADL205 41 GLO441 BLP211 BURN19 GLY221
MFS GLY221

Burnside? Surely Belair CFS are a much much closer mutual aid brigade...

Zippy · « **Reply #1553 on:** January 20, 2009, 12:47:01 PM »

you might be surprised at how little time difference the response and arrival might be...

Zippy · « **Reply #1554 on:** January 20, 2009, 12:48:46 PM »

RE port lincoln.

BOMS automated Response data doesnt get updated over night unfortunately

expected it to be consistantly like that until the data gets updated or sacad comes out from hell.

Bagyassfirey · « **Reply #1555 on:** January 20, 2009, 12:54:00 PM »

ya i figured that zippy. Maybe Port Lincoln MFS need to Respond Lincoln CFS as soon as they are responded to a Gras fire incident..not wait for region 6 commander to get page for the bombers up and he gets them on the road..Like The mayor of lincoln said its a time bomb just waiting to go off...i know that can be said for numerous places around the state but in this example it hink its time to bite their lips n work 2 getha..luckily it didn eventuate

Zippy · « **Reply #1556 on:** January 20, 2009, 12:57:37 PM »

The system needs fixing now...as NOW is when we are alive, right now. Who cares about 2010, 2011...we might be in nuclear war by then.

6739264 · « **Reply #1557 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:12:44 PM »

Quote from: Zippy on January 20, 2009, 12:57:37 PM

Responding Port Lincoln MFS by themselves is just utter filtered...we all know what its like trying to confront a going incident all by ourselves for the first 5-15mins...utter filtered.

Absolute Minimums until FIRST SITREP by Fire service.
2 Brigades > Out of full-time paid staff area...for any Priority 1 job.
1 Group (4 brigades) + Nearest surrounding brigade's > Total Fire ban rural incidents.
1 Brigade > assist other services, animal rescue and tree downs, etc you get the gist.

Not when SACAD comes out. Now.

coming from just another filtered firefighter, which isnt jaff

There is nothing stopping the OIC of the appliances turning out to request more resources BEFORE they arrive. If you're that worried that SAMFS haven't turned out what you want ASK THEM.

Stop whining, start ASKING and taking some responsibility for the jobs YOU turn out to.

I'm getting sick of people like you sitting here bagging the comms guys and girls because of the system that they have to work with.

Zippy · « **Reply #1558 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:14:14 PM »

i wouldnt mind seeing us whinge about 97% less about responses too

tft · « **Reply #1559 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:20:55 PM »

From Google maps
From Belair
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
4.0 km – about 8 mins

From Burnside
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
8.7 km – about 18 mins

Zippy · « **Reply #1560 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:23:20 PM »

Footy · « **Reply #1561 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:38:18 PM »

Quote from: tft on January 20, 2009, 01:20:55 PM

From Google maps
From Belair
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
4.0 km about 8 mins

From Burnside
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
8.7 km about 18 mins

Is that the same Google maps that tells me that to go from Mt Gambier to Renmark it is a 9 hour trip because I have to go via Adelaide??

6739264 · « **Reply #1562 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:49:02 PM »

Ah, Zippy, retracting that little spit about 1 in 6 Competent SAMFS Adelaide Fire Operators?

If you're going to whinge about people, atleast have the guts to stick to your guns.

Quote from: OMGWTF on January 20, 2009, 12:04:58 PM

MFS: *CFSRES INC048 20/01/09 13:22,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,95 BELAIR RD,KINGSWOOD MAP 130 K 13 TG182,TORRENS ARMS HOTEL,ADL205 41 GLO441 BLP211 BURN19 GLY221
MFS GLY221

Burnside? Surely Belair CFS are a much much closer mutual aid brigade...

Pumper vs. 34P? Winding hilly descent vs. Straight flat run?

Zippy · « **Reply #1563 on:** January 20, 2009, 01:59:51 PM »

Quote from: 6739264 on January 20, 2009, 01:49:02 PM

Ah, Zippy, retracting that little spit about 1 in 6 Competent SAMFS Adelaide Fire Operators?

If you're going to whinge about people, atleast have the guts to stick to your guns.

Quote from: OMGWTF on January 20, 2009, 12:04:58 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 20/01/09 13:22,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,95 BELAIR RD,KINGSWOOD MAP 130 K 13 TG182,TORRENS ARMS HOTEL,ADL205 41 GLO441 BLP211 BURN19 GLY221
MFS GLY221

Burnside? Surely Belair CFS are a much much closer mutual aid brigade...

Pumper vs. 34P? Winding hilly descent vs. Straight flat run?

Mr numbers. If 1 person has a problem with my spit, i do stick to my guns. If 2 persons have a problem...those guns can go back in the holster. particularly when its someone your on good terms with.

JamesGar · « **Reply #1564 on:** January 20, 2009, 02:05:34 PM »

Burnside Pumper HM400 PTO
Belair 34P HE500

Belair would have been at the station at time of call having just chased some dust between Belair and Eden Hills.

Eden Pumper would have probably been just as close as Burnside and Belair would head straight down Old Belair Road, onto Blythwood and then into Belair road with a run of about 3.5 kms. Would have probably beaten a red truck there...

Cheers

Zippy · « **Reply #1565 on:** January 20, 2009, 02:14:21 PM »

if only there was a system similar to MDT's to put your station up for "immediate" response duties...like a K5 and K8 or K9.

JamesGar · « **Reply #1566 on:** January 20, 2009, 02:15:49 PM »

Surely SACAD is going to fix every response issue between all emergency services!

Zippy · « **Reply #1567 on:** January 20, 2009, 02:17:55 PM »

heheheheheh.

but SACAD has no brigade input...so how does SACAD know your in station with a crew ready to go like a Flyer!

JamesGar · « **Reply #1568 on:** January 20, 2009, 02:21:48 PM »

Ah Zippy 'the big picture' will give everyone the right response!!

I think it is also the 'All seeing eye'

Someone always knows better apparently!

OMGWTF · « **Reply #1569 on:** January 20, 2009, 02:26:11 PM »

Quote from: JamesGar on January 20, 2009, 02:15:49 PM

Surely SACAD is going to fix every response issue between all emergency services!

From what i heard, SACAD will still have a very defined boundary between CFS & MFS anyway... We'll still be in 'square one', and besides... how can the system be the closest & fastest resource, when they put the maps out for groups to decide upon anyway?

OMGWTF · « **Reply #1570 on:** January 20, 2009, 02:28:38 PM »

Quote from: tft on January 20, 2009, 01:20:55 PM

From Google maps
From Belair
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
4.0 km – about 8 mins

From Burnside
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
8.7 km – about 18 mins

Exactly, cheers mate.

6739264 - type of appliance doesnt come into it... just has to be a mutual aid brigade...

6739264 · « **Reply #1571 on:** January 20, 2009, 02:44:33 PM »

Quote from: Zippy on January 20, 2009, 02:14:21 PM

if only there was a system similar to MDT's to put your station up for "immediate" response duties...like a K5 and K8 or K9.

Quote from: JamesGar on January 20, 2009, 02:15:49 PM

Surely SACAD is going to fix every response issue between all emergency services!

Quote from: Zippy on January 20, 2009, 02:17:55 PM

heheheheheh.

but SACAD has no brigade input...so how does SACAD know your in station with a crew ready to go like a Flyer!

Being able to tag your truck as available for immediate response is useless unless the CAD system tracks individual resources. As you know now, you could have all of your Brigades trucks out, and you will still get paged for another job in your area. Then if it tracks individual resources, that makes the assumption that if there is a truck tagged as 'available' then the Brigade can crew it - something which is certainly not the case in some areas these days.

Quote from: OMGWTF on January 20, 2009, 02:28:38 PM

Exactly, cheers mate.

6739264 - type of appliance doesnt come into it... just has to be a mutual aid brigade...

But, thinking about things for a minute, you would much rather have an Urban Pumper going to an urban fire rather than some slapped together hybrid rural/urban 34 "Pumper", wouldn't you?

OMGWTF · « **Reply #1572 on:** January 20, 2009, 02:58:05 PM »

Mmmm... shall i commence banging of head against wall? CFS do not build urban trucks, full stop.

6739264 · « **Reply #1573 on:** January 20, 2009, 03:11:34 PM »

Quote from: OMGWTF on January 20, 2009, 02:58:05 PM

Mmmm... shall i commence banging of head against wall? CFS do not build urban trucks, full stop.

Come join me, I've been banging my head against a wall for some time now. Ofcourse the CFS don't build/order decent urban trucks, but they're better than the half arsed attempt, one size fits all, 34P. We'll get there eventually...maybe... when the kickbacks stop.

Now, enough of this, time to find some interesting paging:

1915793 14:12:30 20-01-09 Test message please ignore

Consider it ignored DEH

OMGWTF · « **Reply #1574 on:** January 20, 2009, 06:30:47 PM »

I know we have said enough of this

But considering MFS dont pay any attention to the fact that CFS area responding, notice the response for a B risk is still 3 MFS pumps an aerial and DO as well as CFS anyway... it might as well be the closest one or not at all. As that is supposedly the only reason they're going...