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Offline SA Firey

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1000 on: July 28, 2008, 12:04:43 PM »
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 28/07/08 10:57,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,HEASLIP RD,EDINBURGH MAP 50 G 9 TG182,CNR OF EDINBURGH CAR VS LIGHT POLE,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response

Stop call! MFS in attendance before CFS recieved call CFS Salisbury Response

In the crews defence I heard Salisbury MFS state that it was CFS area and had they been called to comms,the answer being NO and the subsequent page.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1001 on: July 28, 2008, 01:13:30 PM »
12:04:47 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1916034 12:04:43 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Coober Pedy
1924962 12:03:33 28-07-08 WM81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research

12:05:24 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919232 12:05:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS Woomera Response

12:08:33 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES North Region
1919288 12:08:32 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS R4 HQ Response
1918209 12:08:32 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES Coober Pedy Response
1919232 12:08:30 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS Woomera Response
1919288 12:08:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919292 12:08:20 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS Coober Pedy Response



no glendambo fair enough long trip for all though 
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1002 on: July 28, 2008, 01:51:41 PM »
Quote from: SA Firey on July 28, 2008, 12:04:43 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 28/07/08 10:57,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,HEASLIP RD,EDINBURGH MAP 50 G 9 TG182,CNR OF EDINBURGH CAR VS LIGHT POLE,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response

Stop call! MFS in attendance before CFS recieved call CFS Salisbury Response

In the crews defence I heard Salisbury MFS state that it was CFS area and had they been called to comms,the answer being NO and the subsequent page.

is it going to the dogs at the moment???  lol...thats the third brigade to be walked over now...
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1003 on: July 28, 2008, 02:03:35 PM »
Quote from: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on July 28, 2008, 12:04:43 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 28/07/08 10:57,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,HEASLIP RD,EDINBURGH MAP 50 G 9 TG182,CNR OF EDINBURGH CAR VS LIGHT POLE,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response

Stop call! MFS in attendance before CFS recieved call CFS Salisbury Response

In the crews defence I heard Salisbury MFS state that it was CFS area and had they been called to comms,the answer being NO and the subsequent page.

is it going to the dogs at the moment???  lol...thats the third brigade to be walked over now...
must be. anyone care to expand on why the mfs are on passive duty? that boms system we work off must be 1st class  :-D
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1004 on: July 28, 2008, 02:04:20 PM »
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1005 on: July 28, 2008, 02:05:57 PM »
Quote from: 6739264 on July 28, 2008, 02:04:20 PM
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...
As stated before if the shoe were on the other foot, watch the sparks fly then!
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1006 on: July 28, 2008, 02:08:56 PM »
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Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...

yeh correct numbers, its just they are playing around with the standard response's when they shouldnt be.   they only seem to anger the respective brigades involved.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1007 on: July 28, 2008, 02:11:15 PM »
Quote from: safireservice on July 28, 2008, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on July 28, 2008, 02:04:20 PM
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...
As stated before if the shoe were on the other foot, watch the sparks fly then!

You mean if CFS responded into MFS area then Stopped the MFS because it was a nothing call there would be sparks?  I highly doubt there would be any issue - most of the SAMFS guys I've met have no problems with being logical.

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Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...

yeh correct numbers, its just they are playing around with the standard response's when they shouldnt be.   they only seem to anger the respective brigades involved.

And a whole lot of people on this forum evidently...
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1008 on: July 28, 2008, 02:14:44 PM »
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And a whole lot of people on this forum evidently...

only because we observe these things occuring, thanks to the internet...putting our feet in there shoes i would be getting less motivated to respond to real jobs, if there is another service that can easily do the same job....scheiße would then hit the fan when that 'other service' isnt available...
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1009 on: July 28, 2008, 03:03:40 PM »
Jesus, I still don't get why there is an issue beyond "You got to have some fun and we didn't" It has happened to me before, where we have attended a job, and on our way back to our station, we have come across another job, a few hundred meters from the local CFS station. It was a minor MVA, your usual "Apply medical treatment untill the ambos arrive" gig. Our pump had things quite in hand, yet the 'other' station blew up as they weren't invited to the job. We gave their captain a courtesy call once we had returned to station, he was not a happy boy.

Given that the incident is delt with in a timely and professional manner, what is the problem?  You see people cracking the shits about minor MVA's and bin fires etc etc - I don't understand it.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1010 on: July 28, 2008, 03:16:01 PM »
So if a CFS crew were in MFS area, came across a job, dealt with it and went home without notifying them, it would be ok. I dont think so. Have been down that road, we notified then on return to station (all it involved was about 5 m2 grass, comms cracked the shits and sent an appliance out to the area to "check it out" So there would be no issues? Bullshit.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1011 on: July 28, 2008, 03:23:50 PM »
Quote from: 029 on July 28, 2008, 01:13:30 PM
12:04:47 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1916034 12:04:43 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Coober Pedy
1924962 12:03:33 28-07-08 WM81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research

12:05:24 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919232 12:05:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS Woomera Response

12:08:33 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES North Region
1919288 12:08:32 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS R4 HQ Response
1918209 12:08:32 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES Coober Pedy Response
1919232 12:08:30 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS Woomera Response
1919288 12:08:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919292 12:08:20 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS Coober Pedy Response



no glendambo fair enough long trip for all though 

Glendambo don't have GRN coverage, hence the lack of callsign in there. ITs all phone calls out there.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1012 on: July 28, 2008, 03:29:33 PM »
What would happen if the CFS truck was way out of area say Piccadilly CFS visiting the airport and we came across a nice bin fire on the way home Which we see no MFS in attendance yet so we call it in to Ad fire and get to work. Is that not our duty?

Or should we just drive past and go not our turf, and then when it spreads into exposures and becomes a factory fire.......
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1013 on: July 28, 2008, 03:31:43 PM »
Quote from: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 02:08:56 PM
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Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...

yeh correct numbers, its just they are playing around with the standard response's when they shouldnt be.   they only seem to anger the respective brigades involved.

Can I ask how you have proof they are playing around with the responses ?

I don't think the Comms staff go out of their way to mess with responses.

If you look on the pager site Salisbury CFS couldn't turn out anyway.

Also last time I checked BOMS isn't smart enough to work out where the middle of the road is, the Salisbury MFS crew did the right thing and realised its in CFS area and told comms, and comms turned out CFS.

I think you all need to worry about making sure your own brigades get on the road, I reckon most people's brigades consistently fail to respond or take 10 mins plus to turn out. You only have to watch the pager site, how many "more crews" and then defaults do you see. I think MFS should be treated nicely as they are covering a LOT of backsides at the moment, look at the major brigades they are covering North and South, I would be very nice to them. If they want to push it you might have lots of spare time to go fishing !
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1014 on: July 28, 2008, 03:37:10 PM »
"If you look on the pager site Salisbury CFS couldn't turn out anyway"

How do you know they could not turn out? They could of rolled a truck and were wanting more people in station for radio's, second appliance etc, there is much more to every situation than what you read on the pager site!
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1015 on: July 28, 2008, 03:42:09 PM »
Quote from: G D on July 28, 2008, 03:37:10 PM
"If you look on the pager site Salisbury CFS couldn't turn out anyway"

How do you know they could not turn out? They could of rolled a truck and were wanting more people in station for radio's, second appliance etc, there is much more to every situation than what you read on the pager site!
Good point, none of those pages i can see say "we cant turn out". You area brilliant pumprescue, at reading something into something thats not there.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1016 on: July 28, 2008, 03:45:12 PM »
Yeah no worries guys, if only you knew how much I know.......... :wink:
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1017 on: July 28, 2008, 03:53:10 PM »
thanks about glandambo but i reckon i have seen a page for them once beroe but could be mistaken

how many people on here understand the new pager codes ie coob00 mnsh42

im still trying to work it out i know that 00 is fire appliance
19 is fire rescue 029 is ses rescue (includes RCR) 020 is ses rescue (no RCR)

where can i get a list of codes so that i can educate my self and team so we know what is comming and where it is from????? 
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1018 on: July 28, 2008, 03:56:41 PM »
CFS/SES Codes

00 Fire
19 Fire and/or Rescue
20 SES Rescue/Salvage
28 Fire and/or Hazmat
29 SES RCR/Rescue/Salvage
42 Fire and/or Bulk Water Carrier
50 SES State duty officer
55 CFS State Air Desk
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1019 on: July 28, 2008, 04:00:44 PM »
There was a callsign used for Glendambo, but it doesn't go anywhere, so no longer used.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1020 on: July 28, 2008, 04:20:46 PM »
Quote from: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 02:08:56 PM
Quote from: G D on July 28, 2008, 03:37:10 PM


 there is much more to every situation than what you read on the pager site!



A good bit of advice perhaps a few ppl on this site seem to forget.... But then again what would we talk about then?
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1021 on: July 28, 2008, 05:14:17 PM »
thanks zippy
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1022 on: July 28, 2008, 06:29:41 PM »
Quote from: bittenyakka on July 28, 2008, 03:29:33 PM
What would happen if the CFS truck was way out of area say Piccadilly CFS visiting the airport and we came across a nice bin fire on the way home Which we see no MFS in attendance yet so we call it in to Ad fire and get to work. Is that not our duty?

Or should we just drive past and go not our turf, and then when it spreads into exposures and becomes a factory fire.......

We were bringing our 24P back from NE Isuzu one day when we came across a MVA outside Mitsubishies at Lonsdale. We assisted with patient care and making the cars safe until SAAS arrived, and in the meantime our LT got on to SHQ who turned out St Mary's.  When they got there they were surprised we turned them out at all and couldn't care if we hadn't!
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1023 on: July 28, 2008, 06:47:12 PM »
Quote from: 029 on July 28, 2008, 03:53:10 PM
thanks about glandambo but i reckon i have seen a page for them once beroe but could be mistaken

how many people on here understand the new pager codes ie coob00 mnsh42

im still trying to work it out i know that 00 is fire appliance
19 is fire rescue 029 is ses rescue (includes RCR) 020 is ses rescue (no RCR)

where can i get a list of codes so that i can educate my self and team so we know what is comming and where it is from????? 

This will also help you out with codes :wink: http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/Brigade%20short%20name%20codes%20final.pdf
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1024 on: July 28, 2008, 07:32:13 PM »
thanks sa firey
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