Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging

[Crownie24]

it could be worse have you seen the CFA paging system.........

[Zippy]

I have, im happy to say i like there's the most in Australia.

They can input the exact words they hear over the phone from the 000 call..."oh theres a fire on a powerpole, think its a transformer"...

ALERT F080200815 BUNI4 NOSTC3 POWERPOLE FIRE CNR KILDERKIN AV/GEAR AV MOUNT HELEN SVC 6520 G4 (561311) SEBA

ALERT <INCIDENT NO> <UNSURE> <SHORT INCIDENT TYPE> <DEFINED INCIDENT TYPE> <LOCATION INC Grid reference> <BRIGADES>

[6739264]

... and this is a huge change from SACFS paging how?

[Crownie24]

The old way was the best and "if it's not broke don't fix it" doesn't go down well with the CFS/MFS head honchos, give it 2 years they'll change it again, and the GRN will get phased out in 3....

[Zippy]

01:13:41   07-02-08   RIVN RESPOND FIRE ALARM RIVERTON DSM HOSPITAL, 23 MOORHOUSE TERRACE, RIVERTON *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 07/02/2008 01:12:00 CFS Mount Barker Response

01:14:20   07-02-08   MFS: respond fixed alarm riverton hospital, contact mfs comms 07/02/2008 1:14:09 AM CFS Riverton Response

01:15:09   07-02-08   MFS: stop for riverton hospital. riverton have been responded. 07/02/2008 1:14:57 AM CFS Mount Barker Response

Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.

[mack]

Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.

strange indeed, considering they are tested/confirmed before going "online"

[Darius]

Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.

strange indeed, considering they are tested/confirmed before going "online"

that "testing" is sometimes very superficial and cursory, I reckon for all the alarms done in my group area about 75% of them had some error/mistake on initial install (fortunately most were quickly noticed by the group/brigade and fixed).

[Comms]

Not nice for the poor vollies at Littlehampton and Mt Barker...

Computers do strange things at times. We got the correct pages out as soon as we realised the error.

[mack]

Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.

strange indeed, considering they are tested/confirmed before going "online"

that "testing" is sometimes very superficial and cursory, I reckon for all the alarms done in my group area about 75% of them had some error/mistake on initial install (fortunately most were quickly noticed by the group/brigade and fixed).

mmmm.... i thought the install and programming was done, and then tested, with the brigade captain or another member acknowledging that it went to the correct adress, before the alarm went live.

[Darius]

mmmm.... i thought the install and programming was done, and then tested, with the brigade captain or another member acknowledging that it went to the correct adress, before the alarm went live.

mostly it is, and that's where the errors I mentioned were spotted, while the contractor was still on site so could fix it straight away.  However there was one in our group that was changed over without the group being notified so obviously the plan is not followed all the time.

[mattb]

You would hope they were tested before going live wouldn't you, but the one that went in to a nursing home down our way recently wasn't. Consequently the only way we knew it was active was when we got responded to a call there.

Maybe if it had of been tested someone would have picked up that the messages where going to the wrong address. As far as I know it still hasn't been fixed, we still haven't had any test messages from them - and that was over 2 weeks ago now.

Hmmm, great error checking there.

[Jono]

19:22:18   08-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC056 08/02/08 19:21,RESPOND ALARM 11/060,UNI HOUSE,STUDENT ACCOMMODATION,160 RUNDLE MALL,ADELAIDE MAP 119 E 1 TG182,FIP ADJ TO LIFTS IN FOYER,2ND ALARM. TG155,ADL203 PPT371 AD2090 ADL206 41 BPK451 MFS Car 41

[Zippy]

Back to 1st Alarm.

[Jono]

Another one

1919082   20:06:50   08-02-08   MFS: RESPOND 2ND ALARM B CLASS STRUCTURE ...ADJAC WINSOR HOTEL N/E RD, WINSOR GDNS 08/02/2008 8:06:38 PM MFS FCI 1

[Crownie24]

1926877   21:14:33   08-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/02/08 21:13,RESPOND Private Alarm,5 ARRAS CT,PARALOWIE MAP 60 N 14 TG182,ALARM OPERATING,SMELL OF SMOKE,SAL321 ELZ332 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
1919072   21:31:07   08-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/02/08 21:30,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,5 ARRAS CT,PARALOWIE MAP 60 N 14 TG182,,31 MFS Car 31
1919082   21:40:50   08-02-08   MFS: Another job at 5 Arras ct Paralowie,map 60,N 14, two bedrooms involved,SO Miller332 08/02/2008 9:40:39 PM MFS FCI 1

It never rains but it pours!!!!

[rescue5271]

58:52 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC053 09/02/08 19:58,RESPOND RCR,CARPENTER ROCKS ,CARPENTER ROCKS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,,MTG029 BKCV00 CFS Port Macdonnell Group Officers Response
1909304 19:58:50 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC053 09/02/08 19:58,RESPOND RCR,CARPENTER ROCKS ,CARPENTER ROCKS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,,MTG029 BKCV00 CFS Blackfellows Caves Response
1928012 19:58:41 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC053 09/02/08 19:58,RESPOND RCR,CARPENTER ROCKS ,CARPENTER ROCKS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,,MTG029 BKCV00 SES East Region


Not sure why SAAS where not paged?? Turned out to be a car fire that then started a grass fire all brigade's in port mac group where paged in the end to attend....

[Cameron Yelland]

except donovans  :-D

Still uncontained but not going anywhere fast.  Burnt approx 100m by 20m?

[Robert-Robert34]

1905686 20:32:43 09-02-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP SW CNR ADMIN BLOCK FFE, GLOBAL SOLUTIONS LIMITED (GSL), BENARA RD, BENARA CFSRES:, ALARM 70/033 MFS Mt Gambier Response

At this rate there should be a fire station based at the Mount Gambier jail manned by inmates just like at Cadell  :-)

[Cameron Yelland]

would never work as its normally the prisoners that set the alarm off.  :-D

[Crownie24]

1909800   21:48:33   09-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC058 09/02/08 21:46,RESPOND Smoke in Area,6 SWIGGS ST,BIRKENHEAD MAP 91 P 4 TG182,TAKE CARE!!,SAIR55 LGS281 - State Airdesk

What? What was the reason behind appending that to the message?

[rescue5271]

should have sent compton....or the new bwc.....just love alarms at prisons NOT...stirling north get paged each night at the moment only to be stopped called a few mins later..Hope they send them an account for false alarms.....

[6739264]

1909800   21:48:33   09-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC058 09/02/08 21:46,RESPOND Smoke in Area,6 SWIGGS ST,BIRKENHEAD MAP 91 P 4 TG182,TAKE CARE!!,SAIR55 LGS281 - State Airdesk

What? What was the reason behind appending that to the message?

Could have been anything from a friendly Comms Op who knows the Largs North crew, to issues they have had at the given address previously...

[Footy]

HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL*NOT REQUIRED MV24 IN ATTENDANCE-HV34 RETURNED - H/V STATION 11/02/2008 2:16:44 AM CFS Happy Valley Info


This is a genuine question and not taking a dig at happy valley... Why do they page each time that their trucks are returning? Obviously if it is just a stop call, then totally understand that. But often its a "returned to station". Wouldn't tha get frustrating for the members of HV to receive a message each time the trucks return to station? Can someone explain if there is a genuine reason behind this? Or is it just one of those things that some brigades do and others don't?

[pumprescue]

HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL*NOT REQUIRED MV24 IN ATTENDANCE-HV34 RETURNED - H/V STATION 11/02/2008 2:16:44 AM CFS Happy Valley Info


This is a genuine question and not taking a dig at happy valley... Why do they page each time that their trucks are returning? Obviously if it is just a stop call, then totally understand that. But often its a "returned to station". Wouldn't tha get frustrating for the members of HV to receive a message each time the trucks return to station? Can someone explain if there is a genuine reason behind this? Or is it just one of those things that some brigades do and others don't?

They have always done it, keeps the troops informed, and I guess if you don't want to know about it, then don't have your pager on, if you didn't go to the call then clearly your not very interested anyway so you may as well turn your pager off.

[RescueHazmat]

Not a bad idea!.. Would save those people who might be leaving work etc, from taking a few extra chances trying to get to a call that had returned 1o minutes prior.