Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging

[mack]

I can never understand why we still have to see if we can get crews on a fire ban day by doing a radio check or call captains...We should treat each day as the same and if its a fire ban then you know you have to page extra units....

hence why any rural incident on a TFB is 2nd alarm initial response per SOP.

[ltdan]

Guys

But why wait 4, 5 ,6 10 minutes etc to wonder if an you are able to provide an appliance on a high risk fire danger day.

Smarter I would think to know what you have in your station as crew and skill level.

I guess the other stations which perform pre-planning also are incorrect in their management and leadership.

[Pipster]

Guys

But why wait 4, 5 ,6 10 minutes etc to wonder if an you are able to provide an appliance on a high risk fire danger day.

Smarter I would think to know what you have in your station as crew and skill level.

The same could be argued for other (equally urgent)types of call outs......  :| :evil:

It is ultimately up to the Captain to ensure that there are enough crews for various call outs, whatever they may be..... I suppose some brigades do so in a more public fashion than others, via the pager, while others perhaps do so in a less public manner (eg at training, or via some other means). 

How the brigade chooses to determine its potential crewing levels is a matter for each individual brigade.   :-D

Pip

[uniden]

State Control Centre make mistakes too.

[probie_boy]

1908894 13:57:39 01-11-07 MFS: INC # 38 - 01/11/07 13:57,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,MONUMENT RD,HINDMARSH ISLAND, MAP 308 Q 6 ,,,MDDL42*CFSRES: CFS Middleton Response

1908893 14:06:18 01-11-07 MFS: INC # 38 - 01/11/07 14:06,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,MONUMENT RD,HINDMARSH ISLAND, MAP 308 Q 6 ,,UNNATTENDED BON FIRE,GLWA19 CUCK00*CFSRES: CFS Goolwa Response

tanker gets called first?  :?

[Alan (Big Al)]

Yes bit of a muff up there, luckily was just a big pile of tree's, but still :|

Was definatly weird having the tanker pull in 5 mins after us considering it doesn't go over 50 :oops:

[safireservice]

Yes bit of a muff up there, luckily was just a big pile of tree's, but still :|

Was definatly weird having the tanker pull in 5 mins after us considering it doesn't go over 50 :oops:

One way of getting it there quicker i suppose.

[Zippy]

22:03:26   01-11-07   MFS: INC # 85 - 01/11/07 22:03,RESPOND Fire Alarm,MT GAMBIER MFS,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,INTERSECTION OF BARROWS AND,MINGBOOL ROADS,MTG029*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response

22:07:05   01-11-07   MFS: INC # 85 - 01/11/07 22:06,RESPOND Fire Alarm,MT GAMBIER MFS,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,INT. OF BARROWS AND MINGBOOL ROADS,MTG701*CFSRES: MFS Mt Gambier Response

22:07:09   01-11-07   MFS: STOP FOR FIRE ALARM. SES Mt Gambier Response

:|  haha 

[David]

ANYONE AVAILABLE FOR STRIKE TEAMS IF REQD INSTATE OR INTERSTATE CONTACT THE CAPTAIN ASAP PLEASE CFS Weetulta/Nalyappa Info

So the question here is, is something going down somewhere that the news hasn't picked up on, or is someone just being very efficient in their pre-planning?

[captain]

No its just good pre-planning, bacause at our last group meeting (Mawson Group) all the Captains were asked to submit name of people who could go on task jobs in or out of state and for how long they could go for.

[Alan J]

No its just good pre-planning, bacause at our last group meeting (Mawson Group) all the Captains were asked to submit name of people who could go on task jobs in or out of state and for how long they could go for.

That part is the easy bit.
The head-scratcher is this...
You've just sent your only 5 people in-district off on a strike
team to the neighbouring group's area. All the rest of your
members work out-of-area in Adelaide CBD or further..
How to crew the second appliance for _possible_ local fires having
regard for members losing pay (food & shelter).
Remember, there isn't actually a local fire - just the possibility
of one.  It may not even be a TFB day.  How to spring your members
free of their employers without losing pay & good-will....

cheers
AJ

[24pumper]

MFS: INC # 69 - 03/11/07 12:46,RESPOND Tree Down,LOT7 COXS HILL RD,ONKAPARINGA HILLS, MAP 187 F 7 ,,50 CM TREE OVER BUILDING P3 THWE NAME DELAMERE ON THE GATE CHRISTINE 83251176,NOA029*CFSRES: SES Central Region

NOA029

Noarlunga i presume?? Does this make them a primary RCR response unit now??

[probie_boy]

MFS: INC # 69 - 03/11/07 12:46,RESPOND Tree Down,LOT7 COXS HILL RD,ONKAPARINGA HILLS, MAP 187 F 7 ,,50 CM TREE OVER BUILDING P3 THWE NAME DELAMERE ON THE GATE CHRISTINE 83251176,NOA029*CFSRES: SES Central Region

NOA029

Noarlunga i presume?? Does this make them a primary RCR response unit now??

rescue code is 19. this is the new codes for SES responses, like our standard fire code is 00, theres is 029.

[chook]

Possibly wrong dude, no body knows what the codes are (no notification or information give out as yet), but I can tell you this every page for a RCR unit so far is 029 regardless of the task, every page for a non RCR unit is 020. Except NOA029 of course! So who knows, but Noarlunga is the same as Tea Tree Gully, Eastern Suburbs & Metro South - USAR, Shoring,Vertical etc. All metro units are General Rescue units, Storm/Flood damage, so I'm not sure why Noarlunga would be 029 possibly a mistake. Wouldn't be the first :wink: easy way to find out though check out the number on their truck if it is 91, then it is RCR if it is 31 (or 2, 3) then its not. Hope this clears up the confusion.
cheers chook

[Morgan]

MFS: INC # 69 - 03/11/07 12:46,RESPOND Tree Down,LOT7 COXS HILL RD,ONKAPARINGA HILLS, MAP 187 F 7 ,,50 CM TREE OVER BUILDING P3 THWE NAME DELAMERE ON THE GATE CHRISTINE 83251176,NOA029*CFSRES: SES Central Region

isn't this akin to sending a fire truck to put out a cigarette butt in an an ash tray?!! :roll:

[bittenyakka]

50cm is quite a large limb for an un equipped person

[CFS_Firey]

50cm is quite a large limb for an un equipped person

Depends if you're measuring length or girth...

In some situations I would consider 50cm very well equipped... :P

[uniden]

The call takers usually ask the diameter of the tree/branch not the length. Be a bit hard to call a 50 cm length a tree wouldnt you think?? Would suggest it is the diameter.

[6739264]

1909101   09:13:46   04-11-07   MFS: INC # 30 04/11/07 9;10, RESPOND TO STATION EMERGENCY, DETAILS TO FOLLOW, MAP 000 0 0 *CFSRES: CFS: Angaston

1909101   09:18:48   04-11-07   MFS: LAST MESSAGE HAS NOT BEEN SENT FROM ADELAIDE FIRE CFS: Angaston

Very Interesting....

[probie_boy]

looks like things got a bit hairy down in the SE last night too...

1929715 02:51:26 04-11-07 STN 70 EMERGENCY PAGE MFS Mt Gambier

1905686 03:00:35 04-11-07 EVERY FIREFIGHTER TO REPORT TO STATION,, GAS METRE TORN, NEED EVERYBODY TO RESPOND, TO HELP WITH SITUATION AND EVACUATION. MFS Mt Gambier Response

and also...

1906658 04:27:20 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 04:27,RESPOND Tree Down,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CALLER 0405 393 818 TWO TREES OVER ROAD,SAPOL SAY ROAD HAZARD,MTG029 TRPN00*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response

1906658 04:27:58 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 04:27,RESPOND Tree Down,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,8 KMS SOUTH OF TARPEENA,MTG029 TRPN00*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response

1906658 04:35:47 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 04:35,RESPOND RCR,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,UPGRADE CALL TO TARPEENA TO ROAD CRASH RESCUE FROM SAPOL MT. GAMBIER,MTG029*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response

1906674 05:00:33 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 05:00,RESPOND RCR,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,8 KMS SOUTH OF TARPEENA/ CALL SES HQ AT MOUNT GAMBIER FIRST,MIL029*CFSRES: SES Wattle Range Response

[chook]

And earlier today too! Mother Nature has been having some real fun this week

[Zippy]

18:16:24   05-11-07   MFS: INC # 42 - 05/11/07 18:16,RESPOND RCR,CUDLEE CREEK CFS,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEA TREE GULLY,CHAIN A POND RD,CUDL00*CFSRES: CFS Cudlee Creek Response

Thats the 2nd time recently that Cuddle Creek has been called to a RCR, without a RCR brigades assistance.  wheres the SOP?

[chook]

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1909141 18:29:43 05-11-07 DRIVER REQUIRED ASAP AT THE STATION CFS: Cudlee Creek


1909130 18:25:41 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: GUMERACHA GROUP
1909139 18:25:39 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: Paracombe
Sorry guys that top page would never happen in my unit, no driver default to next resource - simple.
And still no rescue
:-(

[SA Firey]

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1909141 18:29:43 05-11-07 DRIVER REQUIRED ASAP AT THE STATION CFS: Cudlee Creek


1909130 18:25:41 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: GUMERACHA GROUP
1909139 18:25:39 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: Paracombe
Sorry guys that top page would never happen in my unit, no driver default to next resource - simple.
And still no rescue
:-(

OMG....doesnt anyone read the RCRD anymore :evil:

[CFS_Firey]

OMG....doesnt anyone read the RCRD anymore :evil:

The what? :P