Author Topic: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging (Read 4727881 times)

misterteddy · « **Reply #1500 on:** January 04, 2009, 08:20:14 PM »

Quote from: Zippy on January 04, 2009, 06:01:33 PM

Wouldnt mind seeing 2090 operate a rural job some day. Incident controller and Operations officer can sit in comfort heh.

wouldn't mind seeing 2090 on blocks and used for homeless accomodation somewhere in Elizabeth. All it does is bring the micro-managers closer to you...why would u wish that upon urself?? If they need to sit in comfort, if they need smart boards up the kazoo, if they need 30 talk groups and if they DON'T need to see the fire....then leave them at HQ.

The need to feed endless "story" back to 150/124 Comms is a furfy.....it is a radio room thats all. It actions our requests and is currently used to record stuff from the crew (for legal and other purposes), hence the very long winded and very time consuming dumb arse sitreps we keep hearing - but it is not a Controlling function. Thats the purvey of the Incident Controller. Equip the IC correctly with a Tough tablet PC and a bunch of simple off the shelf software, and all that radio chatter is gone, and all the necessary info is available, and a whole bunch more. Only talk to Adelaide Fire (or Group HQ or Div Command or anyone else) to explain why you need more toys (the actual request can be automated) or to tell them u've had enough and sent all the boys and girls home for smoko.

Sending a bus (sorry .... coach) with Senior Officers, radios, tv, desks and whiteboards in it to help you manage a fire is about as close to 21st century thinking as proban one piece overalls and 2 feet long straight bore branches are for serious firefighting. Oh yeaaah.....we still use them don't we......silly me, my bad. Maybe some stop/go bats in the bus would be a good idea and SAPOL can be relieved from traffic control to then be able to respond to the local hospitals when needed.

Zippy · « **Reply #1501 on:** January 04, 2009, 09:30:34 PM »

good thinking mister teddy...but scheiße will still hit the fan, cos someone didnt attend the operational update sessions.

Zippy · « **Reply #1502 on:** January 06, 2009, 12:55:42 PM »

13:49:41 06-01-09 TRAINING TONIGHT BE PREPARED FOR YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE. REGARDS MARK LT2. CFS Cudlee Creek Info

Oh no!

misterteddy · « **Reply #1503 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:10:43 PM »

Quote from: Zippy on January 06, 2009, 12:55:42 PM

13:49:41 06-01-09 TRAINING TONIGHT BE PREPARED FOR YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE. REGARDS MARK LT2. CFS Cudlee Creek Info

Oh no!

oh yes....that timeless classic of fear and unforgiving terror......

The Dead-Man Zone

Zippy · « **Reply #1504 on:** January 06, 2009, 03:19:53 PM »

MFS: *CFSRES INC068 06/01/09 16:40,RESPOND SHED FIRE,PULTENEY ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 H 9 TG182,CNR GRENFELL ST,ADL201 MFS Stn 20

Must be the stinky automatic toliets, give em a good wash boys

Bagyassfirey · « **Reply #1505 on:** January 07, 2009, 08:18:16 PM »

1924962 21:10:10 07-01-09 S181 Cat2 Germantown Hill, Bridgewater SAAS Road Crash Research

1908998 21:41:15 07-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC073 07/01/09 21:40,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MT BARKER RD,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 F 15 TG136,ON GERMANTOWN HILL BETWEEN BRIDGEWATER A,ND HAHNDORF ABOUT 1KM FROM JARRETS,STRL19 BRDG00 CFS Stirling Response

WOW WOW WOW

SA Firey · « **Reply #1506 on:** January 10, 2009, 10:55:48 PM »

MFS: *CFSRES INC081 10/01/09 22:45,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,REGENCY RD,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 177 J 5 TG182,CNR SHERWOOD CAR VERSES SCOOTER,MRPH00 OHH421 CFS Morphett Vale Response

Closest resource eh I think not

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #1507 on:** January 11, 2009, 08:29:42 AM »

1908978 21:44:16 10-01-09 Kangarilla24 offline until further notice. All calls now treated as 3rd alarm until further notice. Kang Capt. - KANGARILLA STATION 1/10/2009 9:43:39 PM

So does this include Stock on road

rescue5271 · « **Reply #1508 on:** January 11, 2009, 10:06:40 AM »

LOLOLOL... third alarm what a over kill,just page another brigade how hard is that to do.....

Hazmat206 · « **Reply #1509 on:** January 13, 2009, 05:30:50 PM »

MFS: *CFSRES INC093 13/01/09 17:36,RESPOND Assist Police,JULIAN TCE,GAWLER MAP 23 M 10 TG182,REMOVE BODY FROM CREEK BEHIND KINGSFORD,HOTEL,GAW359

Pixie · « **Reply #1510 on:** January 14, 2009, 09:29:31 PM »

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MFS: *CFSRES: Seaford RESPOND Car Fire, Sauerbiers 195 N9 Seaford Meadows, dirt tr 14/01/2009 9:34:27 PM

New paging format??

If so I'm not a fan... I much prefer old(previous) style

Where's the Daily Inc# gone?? makes it much easier to be responding to Inc#Blah, rather than having to name the incident by its location before having full confirmation of the actual location.

what do the comm's operators on here think about this matter??

Zippy · « **Reply #1511 on:** January 14, 2009, 09:37:29 PM »

the MFS Bom's dispatch system is down. The current format was used by CFS SOCC, it was clear cut and precise. Both format's have there advantages pixie.

The comm's operators will know where your going even if you vaugely say the location "Mobile, Car Fire, Seaford, Over". The Incident number system is just a for comcen operator ease of use of the system and also keeping grn air time available.

It just gets filtered when the call rate per hour goes up for comcen.

pumprescue · « **Reply #1512 on:** January 14, 2009, 09:57:35 PM »

Think zippy is on the money, BOMS is having a hissy, this isn't the normal format

Alex · « **Reply #1513 on:** January 15, 2009, 06:37:28 AM »

Quote from: Pixie on January 14, 2009, 09:29:31 PM

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MFS: *CFSRES: Seaford RESPOND Car Fire, Sauerbiers 195 N9 Seaford Meadows, dirt tr 14/01/2009 9:34:27 PM

New paging format??

No.

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #1514 on:** January 15, 2009, 08:28:50 AM »

Just curious, when paged to a car fire this morning they forgot to add the CFSRES bit and hence only went off in the message tone.
I rang Adelaide fire as soon as i got in my car to have them set off the pagers with the alert tone.
It took nearly 3 mins for this page to come through and when it did they used the URGMSG prefix and set our siren off.
a) why does it take so long to generate a page like this
and b) Comms seem to use the URGMSG prefix alot for stop calls and the like and would set of quite a few town sirens in the process, why is this?

Not having a go just curious thats all

Zippy · « **Reply #1515 on:** January 15, 2009, 08:35:56 AM »

a lot of them dont understand the difference between nothing, CFSRES & URGMSG.

Nothing: Info Tone
CFSRES: Response Tone
URGMSG: Urgent Response Tone & siren

they should be able to remember those three things....they get paid to???

Put your siren on Manual activation only to avoid the incompetency leading to unwanted noise.

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #1516 on:** January 15, 2009, 09:01:53 AM »

At least it was a job worthy of the siren going even if it was for 10 seconds only

bittenyakka · « **Reply #1517 on:** January 15, 2009, 09:39:33 AM »

CFSRES also sets of come siresns

Zippy · « **Reply #1518 on:** January 15, 2009, 09:47:53 AM »

yeah...old school lol

mengcfs · « **Reply #1519 on:** January 15, 2009, 12:34:13 PM »

Quote from: bittenyakka on January 15, 2009, 09:39:33 AM

CFSRES also sets of come siresns

How does that work? I thought it was just *URGMSG:

Robert-Robert34 · « **Reply #1520 on:** January 15, 2009, 01:02:18 PM »

When we had the old link pagers when ever there was a fire call SOC would set off our station siren at the same time as the pager but this was stopped after we finished using the 163 MHz VHF Radios and switched to SAGRN

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #1521 on:** January 15, 2009, 01:24:39 PM »

Quote from: mengcfs on January 15, 2009, 12:34:13 PM

Quote from: bittenyakka on January 15, 2009, 09:39:33 AM
CFSRES also sets of come siresns

How does that work? I thought it was just *URGMSG:

Probably depends on how your FSI is set up.

SA Firey · « **Reply #1522 on:** January 15, 2009, 02:06:10 PM »

Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 15, 2009, 09:01:53 AM

At least it was a job worthy of the siren going even if it was for 10 seconds only

Ah yes Al but was it worth getting the truck "bogged" as well

Darren · « **Reply #1523 on:** January 15, 2009, 02:33:58 PM »

The way BOMS is set up, when you send pager msg emergency it adds URGMSG, there is no way for us to take it out, which sucks. People should use the plain Pager Message. As for the time delay, well, not sure, I can't speak for the operators on shift.

All I can say is hurry up CAD, Pleeeeeease hurry up !

As for those that get the sirens on CFSRES, that at this stage is only done for Mt Lofty group, and was done after a lot of bashing from them. It has to be done at the FSI, the issue is, it goes off for EVERY call, and causes havoc with the bushfire hotline, as every resident in the area from Ironbank to Bridgewater thinks there is a fire coming for them, when you tell them its a fixed alarm at Stirling Woolworths they aren't happy !

Alex · « **Reply #1524 on:** January 15, 2009, 02:52:48 PM »

Can probably expect that to be even worse now that the Mitcham Hills community has campaigned for the sirens to be used for evacuations Darren. I can just imagine the siren noise from Upper Sturt or Coromandel Valley being heard in blackwood and causing mass hysteria.

Author Topic: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging (Read 4727881 times)

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