No personal offence taken by me mund, I was just making a point that some people who may visit this forum, may be offended. I know the reputation that the northern suburbs has, I have to live with it everyday cause I live there. But I also know that those that cause the trouble are only a minority, and we as a community do not like those people in our area. We are not the only area to suffer this propblem, but because of demographics, it is more noticeable by the wider public, due to media attention.