Guys, vertical courses are happening have a look at the state training program. The RCR course meets the National competency (you don't need to be an accredited training organisation to deliver the training only to issue the certificates with the National competency number & the little badge) SES has recently gone through the final stages of becoming an RTO, so far everything is looking good. So once the SES is an RTO those who have successfully completed the RCR course will be issued another certificate with the number and little symbol so hang loose it will happen soon. Another course which will meet the same criteria is the new map reading & navigation courses. Sesrcrrescue the RCR course is harder now, because too many slipped through in the dim dark past, at least now I as well as everyone else can be confident that people who pass the course are competent, not just pushed through to help units meet the standards, help mates out etc. It has caused a lot of pain to those involved with providing the training, developing the package & units/individuals who have suddenly realised they can no longer perform RCR. But the pain has been worth it, same as the Vertical Mobility Course and others that are coming (including Navigation). So the short of it is courses are only cancelled due to lack of numbers or qualified trainers, so SES people get those nominations in so we can get training happening (also concider becoming trainers yourselves as there is not enough of us) cheers