Author Topic: Tactical Ventilation Training (Read 19938 times)

JC · « **on:** January 31, 2007, 10:48:24 PM »

has anyone heard how STC is going with setting up this course since Brett Pollini left.

fire03rescue · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2007, 06:04:26 AM »

Still making the course

SA Firey · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2007, 04:26:59 PM »

When I did my CFB course Garth said it will start in the new year about March and will be included in the CFB course

JC · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2007, 05:34:57 PM »

Good to hear, will be good to get on to it i reckon.

filtered · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2007, 08:17:07 PM »

Do you know if they will be offering the training for those who have already completed CFB?

Or will we have to do the CFB course again?

JC · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2007, 09:12:22 PM »

I wouldnt complain if i had to do the course again

Timbo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2007, 09:42:31 PM »

Quote from: jasec on January 31, 2007, 10:48:24 PM

has anyone heard how STC is going with setting up this course since Brett Pollini left.

Brett's replacement is working on it

JC · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2007, 11:52:06 PM »

Quote from: MrT on February 01, 2007, 09:42:31 PM

Quote from: jasec on January 31, 2007, 10:48:24 PM
has anyone heard how STC is going with setting up this course since Brett Pollini left.

Brett's replacement is working on it

Do they have a time frame, i know they have had the containers they want to use for it there a while.

fire03rescue · « **Reply #8 on:** February 02, 2007, 06:11:14 AM »

They did talk about adding it to the CFB course, but anyone that had completed the CFB course would come back for the day.
They also talked about it being a new course.

I guess we will find out later.
I think it will be a great course

Firefrog · « **Reply #9 on:** February 02, 2007, 09:31:11 AM »

who replaced Brett?

SA Firey · « **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2007, 10:40:55 AM »

Three objectives

Vent for Life
Vent for Fire
Vent for Safety

Anyone who has done the CFB course has had a birds eye view of the difference.

Firefrog · « **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2007, 08:20:53 PM »

Anti-ventilation is your friend

Timbo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 04, 2007, 05:06:23 PM »

Quote from: Firefrog on February 02, 2007, 09:31:11 AM

who replaced Brett?

Darren Chapman from Tea Tree Gully.

RescueHazmat · « **Reply #13 on:** February 04, 2007, 05:54:42 PM »

Ventilation, whether tactical, hydraulic, forced or natural is something that needs to be undertaken with great care.. I have seen on too many occasions things go terribly wrong due to incorrect ventilation.

Hopefully the improved training allows for a better understanding of when to, and when not to ventilate..

Camo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2007, 03:43:14 PM »

Probaly 75% of structure fires are free venting before a CFS appliance arrives anyway.

RescueHazmat · « **Reply #15 on:** February 05, 2007, 05:15:23 PM »

You are correct, but thats not to say further ventilation would / wouldn't affect the job.

TillerMan · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2007, 11:59:06 AM »

Depends on the area, we attend alot of structure fires that are just 1 room or cooking on the stove so we use our PPV fan all the time.

Crankster 34 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2007, 08:51:15 PM »

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Ventilation, whether tactical, hydraulic, forced or natural is something that needs to be undertaken with great care.. I have seen on too many occasions things go terribly wrong due to incorrect ventilation.

Could you give us some of your experiances, I would be interested to hear how things turned pear shaped. I know we ventilate all the time either by mechanical or natural means and things have always gone well.

Venitlation is something that needs to be done by experianced people, no point venting if you dont have an exhaust point and don't know what your doing.

mack · « **Reply #18 on:** March 08, 2007, 08:19:48 AM »

Has every one seen that vid of the yanks? small fire in the rear of a shop (rectangle shape shop on street front) first on scene break the front windows and force the dorr before they even have a line ready or anything..... now its got some air the fire quickly spreads through to the front of the shop.

was on youtube or soemwhere at some point... cant quite remember where though. might have just been a crazy email come to think of it.

mack · « **Reply #19 on:** March 08, 2007, 08:20:44 AM »

anyway, was a good example of poor ventilation.

SA Firey · « **Reply #20 on:** March 10, 2007, 08:16:40 AM »

Saw that recently at a brigade training night I think it is on a CFS Training CD
a firey ends up getting burnt after there is a smoke explosion and not a hp line in sight

Scania_1 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 10, 2007, 11:39:17 AM »

Has anyone found any good flashover footage on you tube?

bittenyakka · « **Reply #22 on:** March 16, 2007, 09:30:10 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7QWEe-ziTM

it's not a flash over but i thought venting the left window was a bit sus and one of them dragged a hose into the building before it was charged?

and while i'm at it check this one out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SthjsMOV59I

2090 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2007, 10:15:25 AM »

Now now bittenyakka, not everyone does the CFS thing of donning CABA outside of buildings in fresh air and drag in charged hose.

Camo · « **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2007, 12:35:18 PM »

Nah that would be logical....everyone knows the logical way isnt the best way.

Author Topic: Tactical Ventilation Training (Read 19938 times)

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